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Posted by Jerry Stuckle on 09/12/07 13:15
C. wrote:
> On 12 Sep, 13:23, salmobytes <Sandy.Pittendr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sep 11, 11:05 am, macca <ptmcna...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> As others have said, get any kind of a web-related job
>> and get going. But that only goes so far. To rise up
>> from an entry level job you need skills. Else you'll
>> get stuck, like mosquito to fly paper.
>>
>> So get yourself a personal website, hosted on a cheap, shared-host
>> linux box and start building it with php. Learn how to
>> interact with a mysql database, even if it doesn't really
>> accomplish anything at first. At least you'll get those skills.
>>
>
> Certainly the best way to learn is to do.
>
> Having said that, getting support from more experienced developers is
> a huge boost too.
>
> Rather than going off and doing your own thing before you land that
> dream job, I would recommend looking for open-source php projects who
> need (volunteer) help - try Sourceforge.net
>
> Perhaps its just because PHP is relatively young in the professional
> programming market - but so far the employment market hasn't become
> certificate driven (as it is for most other IT skills). So being able
> to point to a significant open-source project and say I did that (even
> if you only changed one line of code!) will look great on your CV.
>
>> Learn how to program Java and Java Servlets. Get ofbiz running on your
>> local
>> linux box. Get a linux box if you don't have one. A lot of complex
>> high-end business logic gets evaluated by server side Java.
>> Php and php-xmlrpc can be a handy rapid-app front end to those
>> services.
>
> I'd definitely recommend that anyone choosing programming as a career
> learn more than one programming language (a friend recently suggested
> that they should learn a new one every year) but you need to at least
> be proficient in one.
>
> I'd stay well clear of Java though unless you're looking for a job as
> a Java programmer. (before the flames start - I currently get
> reasonably well paid to support some large Oracle/Java applications,
> and previously ran a PHP shop). Do learn SQL and Javascript.
>
> C.
>
Yep, I agree - you need more than one language, and JS and SQL are good
complements to PHP. But I think one a year is too much. If you learn
something and don't use it, you'll lose it. Learn languages as you will
(or plan to) need them so you can use them (almost) right away.
As for Java - there are other advantages, like getting you more into an
OO mindset. This might be one exception to the "use it or lose it"
above - the techniques can carry over to PHP and other languages.
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