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Posted by Jerry Stuckle on 09/18/07 16:26
Shelly wrote:
> "Steve" <no.one@example.com> wrote in message
> news:gfPHi.28$zy3.22@newsfe02.lga...
>>> And BTW - atheism is a religion, also. This is conveniently "overlooked"
>>> by those espousing it in the name of "freedom". But many atheists are
>>> trying to force their religion on the rest of the country.
>> if you're not an atheist, don't presume to know what it is outside of a
>> proper dictionary definition.
>>
>> atheism is the lack of belief in god or gods.
>
> Sorry, Steve, but you have to give the devil his due here. From www.m-w.com
>
> Main Entry: athe·ism
> Pronunciation: 'A-thE-"i-z&m
> Function: noun
> Etymology: Middle French athéisme, from athée atheist, from Greek atheos
> godless, from a- + theos god
> 1 archaic : UNGODLINESS, WICKEDNESS
> 2 a : a disbelief in the existence of deity b : the doctrine that there is
> no deity
>
> To me those are declarative statements and not passive ones. It is a
> "disbelief" rather than a "lack of belief". Also, when you mix "doctrine"
> with theology you have "religion".
>
> The point though that Jerry is trying to make is totally wrong, however.
> Having an atheist in there, and not allowing mixing of standard religion
> with politics is NOT forcing the "religion" of atheism on anyone. Everyone
> is free to believe and practice as they wish -- just not mix it into
> politics. My earlier statement of the flourishing of religion in the USA
> **BECAUSE** of the separation and freedom goes to that point.
>
I'm not saying there has to be a mix of religion and politics. But I am
saying the President is also a citizen, and welcome to practice his beliefs.
Personally, I would rather have a President with certain moral values
which are taught by religion. He could be Christian (my belief),
Jewish, Muslim or any of a number of different religions which share
those same core values. I'm not saying I would not vote for an atheist,
but it is one of the things I take into consideration when looking at
candidates.
Not to say all people who are religious follow those values - take
Clinton for example - getting caught with his pants down (literally).
That is something that I, as a Christian, have never done and will never
do, and I find that behavior abhorrent. My values are higher than that.
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