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 Posted by Steve on 09/18/07 17:17 
"Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote in message  
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> Michael Fesser wrote: 
>> .oO(NoDude) 
>> 
>>> @Michael - I currently use __autoload, which is a neat shortcut, 
>>> albeit it has the same speed impact as *_once (in my case, even 
>>> greater, because of directory traversing). 
>> 
>> I also traverse a lot of class directories, but only if the requested 
>> class could not be found in the class cache, where the locations of all 
>> classes are stored. In such case the cache has to be refreshed. 
>> 
>>> How I (or Steve for that matter) include our files is not (and never 
>>> was) my point however. I was just saying and still am - Using require 
>>> over require_once makes you think of what dependencies you'll have in 
>>> any given request (every single request is unaware of the dependencies 
>>> in the previous request and has its own dependencies). 
>> 
>> Knowing beforehand which classes will be required to handle a particular 
>> request is pretty much impossible in my framework. The request handlers 
>> themselves decide which of them will be responsible for answering the 
>> request and which other objects might be necessary for doing that. It's 
>> even possible that a handler instantiates some objects and then forwards 
>> the request to a sub handler, which in turn might need the informations 
>> provided by the parent handler. 
>> 
> 
> In a properly designed framework, you can predict not only what classes  
> will be required, but what methods in those classes. 
 
not necessarily. what about a c++ framework for creating an STL. the  
framework is usually *complete* abstraction where little is known, yes?
 
  
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