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Posted by Jerry Stuckle on 09/19/07 22:09

Steve wrote:
> "Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:WPOdnQYlxN2FzW3bnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>
>>>> And BTW - atheism is a religion, also.
>>> Only to religious people.
>>>
>> And Websters...
>
> i have an old copy of websters that is nothing like their current
> definition. plus, every dictionary has a different definition of atheism. it
> just means no one really understands what it is...except atheists. we don't
> mind. we're only about 2% of the world's population. even so, that doesn't
> make your snappy come-back, very snappy.
>
> ;^)
>

Gee, word meanings change. Maybe you should get a copy which has been
published this century. Or at least last century.

>>> To atheists it is merely sidelining religion as irrelevant and getting on
>>> with the job.
>>>
>>> This is conveniently
>>>> "overlooked" by those espousing it in the name of "freedom".
>>> This is conveniently overlooked by those who cannot concieve of a person
>>> who believes in nothing other than his sensory apparatus and what it
>>> tells him.
>>>
>> Not at all. I can conceive of those people. But, unlike them, I don't
>> try to force them to practice my religion - but they want to prohibit me
>> from practicing it.
>
> wow. now would be the time for you to say what happened to you
> *specifically* so we don't just discard such a statement as a generalized
> blurt that is unfounded and meaningless.
>
> you still haven't said how you reconsile your apparent aversion to
> fulfilling the great commission. you may not actively tie us down, but
> you're certainly supposed to tell us "the good news". btw, there is more
> religious proliferation in public forums than atheists standing outside your
> church's doors blocking your entrance on sunday morning. just who is forcing
> whom?
>

Those who won't let me pray on school grounds, for instance. A perfect
example - when I lived in Raleigh (NC), our church had a fire (old
wiring). For a while we rented a junior high gymnasium for our Sunday
services while the church was being renovated. Then an atheist group
threatened to sue the country Board of Education for allowing a
religious group to meet on school property.

This was a publicly owned building, and open to any other group willing
to pay the same rent we did. But even though we were members of the
public and payed the taxes to build the building, we were barred from
using it during non-school hours, when no one else was around, because
we were holding a religious function.

>
>>>> But many atheists are trying to force their religion on the rest of the
>>>> country.
>>>>
>>> They can't. Atheism by definition is the absence of religion.
>>>
>> Wrong, again.
>
> again...
>
> a latin: without
> theism latin: belief in god
>
> i know you don't care about word origins, lexicons, or etymology in general
> (your s.a.t scores must have s.u.c.k.e.d), however when there is a dispute
> as the the modern interpretation of a word, the latin or greek roots are the
> foundation of any definition. the one above is the simple raw data. you can
> certainly appreciate at least that, being a programmer.
>

Nope. Word origins don't mean anything other than where the words came
from. Current usage is what counts.

>
>>>> The first amendment had to do with TOLERANCE. You worship your way and
>>>> I worship mine. You don't try to tell me what I can and cannot do, and
>>>> I don't try to tell you the same.
>>>>
>>> I don't worship.
>>>
>> No, you don't worship a god.
>
> no, you don't know him well enough to say that. you must take him at his
> word that he doesn't worship...anything. you keep acting like you are on
> familiar terms with everyone. that's rather arrogant.
>
>

I was just more specific about it. If he doesn't worship anything, then
the logical conclusion is that he doesn't worship a god, either.

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