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Posted by SpaceGirl on 10/01/07 10:13
On Sep 28, 7:11 pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
productions.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 08:22:41 -0400, Jerry Stuckle
>
> <jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote:
> >> Actually current estimates are below 4% (and dropping 2% every six
> >> months) and really, none of my sites, like nearly EVERY site these
> >> days will work without javascript. In some cases I'll have them
> >> retard back to a plain text version of the site if
> >> javascript/flash/etc has been disabled, but that's about all the
> >> effort I'm willing to invest for the Amish of the Internet.
> >Not from any reliable source I've seen.
>
> Yeah, because the W3Schools site, boy THAT'S not a reliable source:http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
>
> *nods*
Who visits that site other than developers and designers? So, how are
their stats even vaguely representative of average users?
>
> >10% and rising.
>
> Cite your source, Doofy.
Cite yours. The W3CSchools site is not relevant.
I actually thing you are right, but it very much depends on your
market.
> You mean the retards. I mean, let's think about this...if you shut
> off javascript...pretty much 90%+ of ALL content on the web would
> magically become beyond your reach. Pretty much ALL major websites
> from CNN to TV Guide all rely heavily on javascripts (amongst other
> languages).
Cite your source. 90%? The worlds most popular sites (bbc.co.uk and
google.com) both work without JS. While not all of their content is
visible without JS, they don't "magically become beyond reach".
> >Or at least I
> >*hope* it's your loss, and not some client who doesn't have a clue.
>
> Oh so now you're claiming that 94%+ of the Internet doesn't have a
> clue, eh?
>
> http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
How often do people in cyber cafe's visit that site? Or school kids,
or office workers, or people on library computers, or folks at home
doing online shopping etc etc. The site is not in the least bit
representative of general users - it only represents people who are
likely to visit their site (and the other technical sites they gather
stats from).
"You cannot - as a web developer - rely only on statistics. Statistics
can often be misleading.
Global averages may not always be relevant to your web site. Different
sites attract different audiences. Some web sites attract professional
developers using professional hardware, while other sites attract
hobbyists using old low spec computers." -- W3CSchools own statistics
page.
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