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Re: To table or not to table?

Posted by Jim S on 10/07/07 18:48

On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 13:09:17 -0400, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

> Jim S wrote:
>> On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:20:22 +1000, dorayme wrote:
>>
>>> In article
>>> <doraymeRidThis-66E806.15165903102007@news-vip.optusnet.com.au>,
>>> dorayme <doraymeRidThis@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would tend to do something like this.
>>>>
>>>> <http://netweaver.com.au/jim/jimsPage.html>
>>> Just one more little thing I forgot to add to last post. I would
>>> be tending to use display: block on the images but I have
>>> captioned with a simple method that is easier to immediately
>>> understand. Anyway, maybe this sort of thing could get you going?
>>
>> I have tried your suggestion, but 'correct' tho' it may be, I find it
>> tiresome when updating pages, which I constantly do.
>> I use Expression Web (I can hear the sighs already) because it works for
>> me. For me, one of the faults with your layout is that I cannot 'see' it in
>> EW as it will look, without constantly flipping between a browser and back.
>
> Jim this may see a bit harsh but you do know that PCs can multitask now,
> right? If you have the screen real estate, put your editor window beside
> your browser window, cascade if you wish. Simply ALT TAB or click
> taskbar buttons to toggle windows... The advantages are your can test
> more than one browser. Yep, fire up Firefox and MS(Windows)IE and maybe
> Opera at once and you can cycle among them rather than depend on MS's
> take on how the web "should" work...not a good strategy IMHO
>
>>
>> The fact that have asked for help in constructing my site to Strict
>> standards is mainly because I have the time, but partly because I was
>> goaded into it and partly because of the constant criticism that tables are
>> not meant to be used as placeholders for graphics.
>> Well that may be so, but it works for me and it validates (usually).
>> It is a simple site, but mine own.
>
> Actually, going tablesless can be much simpler if you free yourself from
> the grid. As you learn more about CSS you can streamline your
> presentation and can make changes in presentations or add content
> without having to redo the page...
>>
>> If I make mistakes and the site looks wrong in your enormous display, it is
>> my fault for bad markup, not the fault of using tables. I recommend the
>> resolution on the homepage and try to keep the pictures and setup so there
>> are no problems when viewing in 800 x 600 (unlike the one you suggested).
>> Thanks for now.
>
> See that's the evidence on your mindset problem. You are thinking 800 x
> 600... what if my display area is only 500px wide either by the
> limitations of my display device or browser window I have alloted
> because I have more than one window up on my desktop? Hang your page on
> an 800 x 600 grid and I will have to scroll back and forth *and* up and
> down within my view port. dorayme's design adjusts and all I have to do
> is scroll down...with my scroll wheel at the ready!

I guess I just cannot cope with it.
Thanks for your efforts.
--
Jim S
Tyneside UK
www.jimscott.co.uk

 

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