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 Posted by Brendan Gillatt on 10/10/07 15:49 
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Onideus Mad Hatter wrote: 
> On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 16:09:57 +0100, Brendan Gillatt 
> <brendanREMOVETHIS@brendanREMOVETHISgillatt.co.uk> wrote: 
>  
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>> Onideus Mad Hatter wrote: 
>>> On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:32:22 +0100, Brendan Gillatt 
>>> <brendanREMOVETHIS@brendanREMOVETHISgillatt.co.uk> wrote: 
>>> 
>>>>>> *snicker* 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You retard!  That won't even work on IE 5 on teh Mac! 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Not to mention: 
>>>>>> http://www.backwater-productions.net/_test_platform/URAMORON.swf 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> LOL, you can achieve the same effect in Flash with NO HTML or CSS code 
>>>>>> and it's ONLY 280 bytes...that's a nearly FORTY PERCENT reduction in 
>>>>>> size from yer idiot bloat code!  100 Kilobytes, what the fuck are you 
>>>>>> thinkin, Sunshine?  All you stupid ass gawd damn poser, wannabe, 
>>>>>> college flunkie, halfass retards are all alike...runnin the fuck at 
>>>>>> the mouth about shit you don't know about and then getting BITCH 
>>>>>> SLAPPED for it. 
>>>>> Oh wait, sorry, my bad.  Did I say 280 bytes?  Silly me, using default 
>>>>> object names.  *alters object names*  There we go, now it's 270 bytes! 
>>>>> ^_^ 
>>>>> 
>>>>> One should probably also mention the fact that Flash allows for 
>>>>> custom, embedded font types and proper font anti-aliasing, both of 
>>>>> which HTML is wholly incapable of achieving. 
>>>> Sure it is - I know for a fact it can do so on a Solaris graphics 
>>>> workstation. Can flash do that? Ummmm..... 
>>> You don't have any fuckin cl00 as to what you're babbling about, do 
>>> you?  Tell us, how ~exactly~ is it that your HTML code is magically 
>>> embedding fonts into itself?  Show us the code, Goober!  LOL, this 
>>> should be good for a laugh or six. 
>>> 
>>> And as for the anti-aliasing...um, that has nothing to do with the 
>>> operating system directly so much as it has to deal with the browser 
>>> and no browser I'm aware of has proper font-antialiasing (mostly cause 
>>> it's seen as being too resource heavy, so they simply don't support 
>>> it).  In Flash you have the option to turn on and off anti-aliasing 
>>> not only on the Flash file as a whole, but individual objects within 
>>> the Flash construct can be dynamically set for anti-aliasing. 
>  
>> Ah I see where you're comprehension is failing. 
>  
> And here's his backpedal, get ready for it folks! 
>  
>> The font that a website 
>> is displayed in should be up to the users to decide - why shouldn't 
>> they? Their is no way that flash gives a user choice. And anti-aliasing? 
>> That's also the user's choice. 
>  
> If you wanted to give your users a choice, you could, it'd be very 
> simple.  You uh, you DO know that you can style Flash with CSS in the 
> same way that you can HTML, right Junior? 
>  
>> Flash does one sort of ant-aliasing - grayscale. It doesn't have support 
>> at all for sub-pixel anti aliasing which is far, f<COCK SLAP> 
>  
> WRONG! 
>  
> It has sub-pixel anti-aliasing when you use "best" quality. 
>  
>>> And, once 
>>> again, Flash is smaller. 
>  
>> No, not always. 
>  
> This coming from the stupid fuckin retarded prepub who just got his 
> ass blistered over trying make a similar claim (or did you forget 
> about your EIGHT HUNDRED PERCENT LARGER site size already).  I mean, 
> what is it with you, are you TRYING to get yer ass blistered?  What 
> are you lacking a father figure in your life and you're trying to use 
> me to fill that role? 
>  
>>> with a greater level of cross 
>>> compatibility. 
>  
>> Did you really just say that? Did you actually say flash has a wider 
>> cross-compatibility than plain HTML? 
>  
> Depends on how "plain" you mean.  HTML's inherent flaw is that the way 
> it looks on one browser/OS is often NOT the way it will look on 
> another.  It's that inconsistency which makes it non cross-compatible. 
> Just because you can take a square peg and rip it all up into little 
> pieces doesn't mean that it fits in a round hole, cause what yer 
> gettin out on the other end ain't a square peg...it's retarded 
> bullshit, that's all you're getting.  Flash is more cross compatible 
> in that what in looks like on one machine/browser is pretty much 
> exactly the way it's going to look on another machine/browser. 
>  
> Your deficient line of thinking is to sacrifice design 
 
You mean your site has a good design? 
 
> usability 
 
Do you even check 508? You do realise that flash is nearly impossible for 
screen readers to interpret. 
 
> and 
> stability 
 
Flash is somehow more stable than plain ASCII now? 
 
> for miniscule market gains.  It's sort of like Pepsi could 
> probably make a whole fuckin lot more cans and get them to more people 
> around the world if they just skipped the whole "cola" thing and 
> filled their cans with tap water...but uh...it wouldn't be Pepsi then, 
> now would it, you stupid goober. 
 
Please explain to me and all the other readers of usenet what exactly was 
the meaning of that? I don't understand how you relate me using HTML to 
filling pepsi cans with water. 
 
>> Yet again I am astounded by your unbelievable short-sightedness. 
>  
> This from the retard who thinks he can embed fonts into HTML code. 
 
When did I say that? Please quote, my usenet archives are obviously 
incorrect. 
 
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