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Posted by bb90125 on 10/23/07 01:13
On Oct 1, 3:14 pm, SpaceGirl <nothespacegirls...@subhuman.net> wrote:
> Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
> >> Who visits that site other than developers and designers? So, how are
> >> their stats even vaguely representative of average users?
>
> > Oh Spacey, you have GOT to be completely the fuck out of yer head
> > today:
> >http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?url=www.w3schools.com
>
> So?
>
> You really think your mom would visit a W3C site? No. So her "vote"
> (hit" would not count. Just how many people are likely to go to these
> site who aren't involved in the industry in some way? What percentage of
> the 300,000,000 internet users there are actually go to this site?
>
>
>
> > I mean, what the fuck girl? Check the shit out before you run at the
> > mouth, that's like rule number one in the tech biz.
>
> >>>> 10% and rising.
> >>> Cite your source, Doofy.
>
> >> Cite yours. The W3CSchools site is not relevant.
>
> > Yeah, an Alexia ranking of SIX HUNDRED THIRTY FIVE...boy THAT'S not a
>
> You moron... Alexia is even worse! :D It only counts people who have the
> Alexia bar installed... which is practically nobody LOL.
>
> > relevant site. Oh hey, why don't we check YOUR Alexia rating!
>
> >http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?url=www.bitesizedja...
> > Uh oh, you seem to be floating up there around FOUR MILLION. *nods*
>
> LOL Amazed it's even that good, seeing as it's not launched.
>
> >> I actually thing you are right, but it very much depends on your
> >> market.
>
> > No, it REALLY the fuck doesn't.
>
> Of course it does. Get stats from universities you're likely to see very
> high numbers for Linux and other off-beat OS's and browsers. Different
> markets are more/less likely to use different platforms, so will always
> sway your stats.
>
> The kinds of people who visit W3C related sites are not average users.
>
> > Just in case reality hasn't penetrated yer thick fuckin skull yet,
> > here's that link, ONE MORE TIME:
> >http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?url=www.w3schools.com
>
> So?
>
> http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?url=www.bbc.co.uk
>
> There are around 300 million web users in the world. I doubt even 10% of
> them visit Alexa (I don't know, happy to be given a real figure), and I
> bet not even 1% of them visit w3schools.com. So, you are basing your
> stats on a tiny fraction of the world audience.
>
> However, if you were to measure the percentage of all the web designers
> in the world, it'd be much higher obviously, as they have an interest in
> the site - so they will visit it, their hits get counted.
>
> >> Cite your source. 90%? The worlds most popular sites (bbc.co.uk and
> >> google.com) both work without JS. While not all of their content is
> >> visible without JS, they don't "magically become beyond reach".
>
> > Even MY site will "work" without javascript
>
> So your site is not one of the 90% that you said will disappear if there
> was no JS. Good for you.
>
> > (do note the lack of
> > capitals, amateur).
>
> Damn you got me. You better tell ECMA then, the people behind the
> standard (JS is an ECMA standard, like AS3):
>
> http://www.ecma.com
>
> And Microsoft:
>
> http://search.microsoft.com/results.aspx?mkt=en-US&form=MSHOME&setlan...
>
> And Adobe:
>
> http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/search/index.cfm?loc=en_us&term=javascript
>
> And Mozilla:
>
> http://www.google.com/custom?cx=002443141534113389537%3Aysdmevkkknw&c...
>
> And W3Schools:
>
> http://www.google.com/search?sitesearch=www.w3schools.com&as_q=javasc...
>
> Need I go on?
>
> http://searchwebservices.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid26_gci21241...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=javascript&fulltex...
>
> Seems the entire world has it wrong, but I'm sure you'll fix it for them.
>
> > In case you were too damn thick to notice there's
> > actually a whole gawd damn shit load of javascript on pretty much ALL
> > of Google's sites. Oh but I bet they just put that in there for the
> > fun of it, it doesn't really do anything, huh Spacey? *nods*
>
> Yes. There are plenty of sites that won't work without JS. But not the
> 90% you claim. Almost all the sites we do have JS all over them too.
> Some of them may not work without it :)
>
> > BTW, I don't think I properly bitch slapped you the last time you
> > tried to claim that javascript is capitalized, so please, try and
> > claim otherwise again and I'll go ahead and slap you up long side yer
> > head with what a fuckin n00b level miscomprehension that is. ^_^
>
> I just gave you a list of the people behind the language, who all refer
> to it as JavaScript. List me similar official sites or standards
> agencies that conflict with it please?
>
> >> How often do people in cyber cafe's visit that site? Or school kids,
> >> or office workers, or people on library computers, or folks at home
> >> doing online shopping etc etc. The site is not in the least bit
> >> representative of general users - it only represents people who are
> >> likely to visit their site (and the other technical sites they gather
> >> stats from).
>
> > Here's reality!
>
> >http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?url=www.w3schools.com
>
> http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?url=www.bbc.co.uk
>
> The worlds 2nd busy web site... (and works without JS)
>
> http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?url=www.google.com
>
> The worlds busiest site (and works without JS)
>
> > Bitch slapping you the fuck across yer face since birth. *nods*
>
> Only in your wet dreams :)
>
> >> "You cannot - as a web developer - rely only on statistics. Statistics
> >> can often be misleading.
>
> > Uh, not this one, Kiddo. This is pretty much the fuck set in stone.
>
> They say that on their own site! You really do earn your handle :)
>
> >> Global averages may not always be relevant to your web site.
>
> > And amazingly enough Alexia can actually track by country, isn't that
> > neat? ^_^
>
> Doesn't every stats package?
>
> --
>
> x theSpaceGirl (miranda)
>
> http://www.northleithmill.com
>
> -.-
>
> Kammy has a new home:http://www.bitesizedjapan.com
Jerry Stuckle, arrogant and a moron.
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