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Posted by JamesCX DiPietro on 10/31/07 22:05
The charter is perfectly clear. You should read it and understand it before you try arguing against it.
For folks like Fesser who are too lazy to look it up, here it is:
RESULT
unmoderated group comp.lang.php passes 177:11
There were 177 YES votes and 11 NO votes, for a total of 188 valid votes.
There were 2 abstains and 11 invalid ballots.
For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.
There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.
Newsgroups line:
comp.lang.php PHP, server side scripting.
Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 30 Jun 2002.
[ Votetaker remarks: This was a re-vote. The first vote was cancelled due
to the distribution of pre-marked ballots. ]
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the
proposed group should be directed to the proponent.
Proponent: Ian Fette <ife...@comcast.net>
Votetaker: David E. Smith <d...@technopagan.org>
RATIONALE: comp.lang.php
An alt.php newsgroup currently exists and is well used, and there is also
an alt.comp.lang.php group in existence. Not all servers carry alt.*
newsgroups, however, essentially splitting the PHP Usenet community.
Almost all news servers carry the comp.lang.* groups, which would make the
group more accessible to users, in addition to unifying the two "Usenet
PHP factions." Furthermore, every respected programming language has a
group under comp.lang.*. PHP has matured into a respected (and powerful)
language widely in use. As such, a group in the comp.lang.* hierarchy
seems appropriate at this time. Finally, posts in comp.lang.* groups are
retained longer than posts in alt.* groups on many servers, another reason
that a switch to a comp.lang.* group would benefit the PHP community.
CHARTER: comp.lang.php
comp.lang.php is intended to be a global forum for the discussion of
issues involving PHP. The ultimate goal is to create a relaxed yet helpful
environment in which people can seek answers to general questions about
PHP, specific questions regarding specific PHP functions or code snippets,
or topical questions.
The posting of binaries is generally frowned upon. When posting a specific
question about a piece of code or a function that you are having a problem
with, please include in your post a section of code as small as possible
that illustrates the problem you are having.
A group alt.php.sql also currently exists, but is less frequently used
than alt.php. Since database connectivity is a large part of PHP, it will
be considered topical in comp.lang.php. A comp.lang.php.sql is not deemed
necessary at the current point in time, however may be proposed at a later
point should the need arise.
END CHARTER.
DISTRIBUTION:
Pointers directing readers to this CFV were posted in the following groups:
de.comp.lang.php
fr.comp.lang.php
comp.lang.php Final Vote Ack
NOTE: This is not [to be used as] a mailing list. The email addresses
are posted only to help verify the interest poll. Thank you. The "real"
vote list can be recovered by piping the list below through sed s/~/@/g .
comp.lang.php Final Vote Ack
Voted Yes
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$thomas/98b$~mail.paradise-green.co.uk Thomas Sandford
adia~hellug.gr Alexandros Diamantidis
alandrums~yahoo.com Alan
amcmicha~Princeton.EDU Andrew McMichael
andy~andyh.org Andy Hassall
andy~microwinder.com Andrew Conner
anthony~ventimiglia.org Anthony Ventimiglia
arussell~apexsoftware.freeserve.co.uk Alex Russell
avbentem~hetnet.nl Arjan van Bentem
baloo~ursine.dyndns.org Baloo Ursidae
beyond~xs4all.nl beyond
bob~cube33.com Fred</DIV>
bouvin~daimi.au.dk Niels Olof Bouvin
bpalmer~leland.stanford.edu Brian Palmer
brlspam~yahoo.com Bruce Lewis
bruce-baugh~spiretech.com Bruce Baugh
bt~csfps.de Volker Borchert
btpoole~nortelnetworks.com Benjamin Poole</FONT>
bwm~bwm.org.uk Barry Martin
cerberus2k~blueyonder.co.uk John Mitchell
chc~alussinan.org Christophe Cuq
chris.bewick~ntlworld.com Chris Bewick
chris~stallion.oz.au Christopher Biggs
chriseb~ukshells.co.uk Chris Ebenezer
chuck~cycletourist.com Chuck Anderson
cind0revs~toadmail.toad.net Arthur J Mongan
cl.php-vote~abulman.co.uk Alister
cmeerw_vote~fastrun.at Christof Meerwald
d.cardonne~univers-cite.qc.ca Danny Cardonne
dansachs~panix.com Daniel Sachs
davep~davep.org Dave Pearson
dball~bnb-lp.com David Ball
dc~panix.com David W. Crawford
devin~thecabal.org Devin L. Ganger
devnull~vianet.ca Trevor Tymchuk
dfrost~maths.tcd.ie Dermot Frost
djm~zamang.co.uk David McCormack
dpc~ipp.mpg.de David Coster
dvandeun~vub.ac.be Dirk van Deun
e~dronkert.net Ewoud Dronkert
earthscibbs~rogers.com David Ramalho
ed~eddaniel.demon.co.uk Ed Daniel
egorr~scanalytics.com Eric Gorr
Ekkehard~Uthke.de Ekkehard Uthke
elainet~vianet.ca Elaine Timms
ellis~spinics.net Rick Ellis
eltehaem~poczta.onet.pl Wojciech Gdela
elucero~inet.cl Eduardo Lucero Muller
equus~welsh-cob.cix.co.uk Alan Chapman
ermannov~netscape.net Ermanno Iannacci
eugenem~ix.netcom.com Eugene Mah
fortiz~lacorona.com.mx Fernando Ortiz
franck.t~netcourrier.com Franck T.
gbx~email.si Gorazd Bozic
george~pcb-designer.com George H. Patrick, III
ggw~wolves.durham.nc.us G.Wolfe Woodbury
gherbert~retro.com George William Herbert
gildseth~start.no Tommy Gildseth
girvandw~freeuk.com David Girvan
gluds~yahoo.com Josep Domenech
gouders~et.bocholt.fh-ge.de Dirk Gouders
gregor.herrmann~comodo.priv.at gregor herrmann
grund~h-a-s-e.com Wolfgang Grund
guillaume.jany~wanadoo.fr Guillaume JANY
harder~ifa.au.dk Jesper Harder
henkp~cs.uu.nl Henk Penning
herveus~radix.net Michael Houghton
hhSPAM~fsck.dk Henrik Hansen
Humphrey.Clerx~eurocontrol.int Humphrey Clerx
ian.michael~impub.co.uk Ian Michael
iarenuno~eteo.mondragon.edu Ignacio Arenaza
ifette~comcast.net Ian Fette
irwin~stat.ohio-state.edu Mark Irwin
jaed~jaedworks.com Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
james.bursa~strcprstskrzkrk.co.uk James Bursa
JamesL~Lugoj.com James Logajan
jani.percic~arih.si Jani Percic
jason~devnetwork.net Jason
jeffhung~ms44.url.com.tw Chien-Chou Hung
jeffrey~carlyle.org Jeffrey Coleman Carlyle
jell~clari.net.au Jelle Jager
jennifer~material.demon.co.uk Jennifer Moore
jennine~7d.com Jennine Townsend
jgd~cix.co.uk John Dallman
jim_hayter~hotmail.com Jim Hayter
jmv16~cornell.edu Jeffrey M. Vinocur
joe~sfbooks.com Joe Bernstein
john~thegreys.co.uk John Grey
johnl~iecc.com John R. Levine
jolomo~olagrande.net Joe Morris
jon~alpineinternet.com Jon Abernathy
josh~joshghiloni.net Joshua Ghiloni
jphillips~jpgonline.com Joe Phillips
js~saltmine.radix.net John Schmidt
julesd~erols.com Jules Dubois
julien.lecomte~voonoo.net Julien=20
kees.de.bruin~altium.nl Kees de Bruin
ken.gregg~rwre.com Ken Gregg
kennethf~stud.ntnu.no Kenneth Frank Salvesen
kenrbnsn1~rcn.com Ken Robinson
kevin~pricetrak.com Kevin Thorpe
Kimmo.Rinteela~uta.fi Kimmo Rinteel?
les.lytollis~morse.com Lez Lytollis
lfrigault~teaser.fr Laurent FRIGAULT
mb~markus-berthold.de Markus Berthold
me~ifihada.com jbp
mefju~venus.ci.uw.edu.pl Maciej Ostaszewski
megazone~megazone.org MegaZone
mhess~miraclec.com Michael A. Hess
michaeno~stud.ntnu.no Michael Norum
mohrmann~gmx.de Bjoern Mohrmann
moj~alertir.com Mats-Olof Sander
montanab~gower.net Bill Montana
mrm~lerctr.org Ray Mullins
mythaddeus~attbi.com D. Scaldini-Klimm
neomal~ginosko.net Neomal Weerakoon
newt_e~blueyonder.co.uk Neil James =
orjan_f~post.utfors.se D6rjan Forslund
p.henkel~zonnet.nl Peter Henkelsoft
panchjr~hotmail.com J Panchen
patrick~pataltman.com Patrick Altman <patrick~pataltman.com>
paul.kappeler~cerberus.ch SPAN
Paul.Smith~cantos.com SPAN=20
pauls~etext.org Paul Southworth
paul_greathouse~hp.com Paul Greathouse
pblaer~panix.com Paul Blaer
pgl~yoyo.org Peter Lowe
pnlarsson~telia.com Niklas Larsson
psmyth~gmx.net Peter Smyth
pt97fjo~student.bth.se Fredrik Jonson
r.mariotti~financialdatacorp.com Robert Mariotti
rabower~stny.rr.com Dick Bower
rainer.ginsberg~basf-it-services.com Rainer Ginsberg
ralph.j~excite.com Ralph Johnston
rcpj~panix.com Pierre Jelenc
reg~reva.co.uk john moylan (jfp)
rel+vote~lipo.at0.net Roland E. Lipovits
ric~digital-animations.com Richard Cooper
Richard.Cook~Colorado.EDU Richard Cook
roman.maurer~amis.net Roman Maurer
ron.barnett~NTLWorld.com Ron Barnett
rosie~dozyrosy.com Rosemary Powell
rra~stanford.edu Russ Allbery
sbfaulds~ihug.co.nz Stuart Brodie Faulds
scott~zsori.com Scott Zsori
shevek~onlinehome.de Harald Seute
shiva~io.com Earl Cooley
shodan~pandorasstrike.fsnet.co.uk Anthony =
shyamal.prasad~ericsson.com Shyamal Prasad
simon~darkmere.gen.nz Simon Lyall
smlucas~flashmail.com Steven Lucas
snevel+usenet~sonic.net Simeon Nevel
snow3~xs4all.nl Maarten van der Peet
spaite~apigestmed.com SPAITE
spence~panix.com Michael D. Spence
squid~panix.com Yeoh Yiu
stefan~nmg.nl Stefan Koopmanschap
steve~yelvington.com Steve Yelvington
stevenv~operamail.com Steven Vasilogianis
support~tradersparadise.com Trader's Paradise
thierry~pompo.net Thierry Thomas
toivo~ucs.uwa.edu.au Toivo Pedaste
trevor~ashdown-software.com Trevor Smith
ts~UWasa.Fi Timo Salmi
tyketto~wizard.com Brad Littlejohn
van.ette~inter.nl.net Robert-Jan van Ette
verch~panix.com Jason Verch <usenet~screwups.com>
viralbus~daimi.au.dk Thomas M. Widmann
vote-comp.lang.php~newton.digitalspace.net Philip Newton
vote2002~valiant.palfrader.org Peter Palfrader
Vulch~vulch.org Anthony Frost
walkerk~crocuta.com Kent Walker
webgeek~snarkles.net Angela Byron
wim.koorenneef~home.nl Wim Koorenneef
xavier~linkadmin.org Xavier Spriet
yadi~xtra.co.nz Amos Jeffries
zimnyzenon~interia.pl Zenobiusz Zimny
Voted No
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dougbob~charter.net Brian Douglas
ernestcline~mindspring.com Ernest Cline
JEckart~mail.com John Eckart
mail~djfoulkes.fsnet.co.uk Dom Foulkes
naddy~mips.inka.de Christian Weisgerber
pan~syix.com Pan
rick~bcm.tmc.edu Richard H Miller
RUSTYBLKJK~aol.com Rusty Martin
shrao~nyx.net Shrisha Rao
stainles~bga.com Dwight Brown
vpdura~hiwaay.net Vic Dura
Abstained
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jmprice~calweb.com John M. Price, PhD
svalbardifast~home.se Kent Persson
Votes in error
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ArtKamlet~aol.REMOVE.com Arthur Kamlet
! Ack bounced
cmosser~attbi.com Christopher M Mosser
! Ack bounced
help~dvdseason.com DVDSeason
! No ballot
news~beyond.xs4all.nl beyond
! Invalid address
not~here.com Wayne
! Invalid address
puntomaupunto_at_tin.it~example.invalid.cselt.it Maurizio Codogno
! Ack bounced
qsinagra~hotmail.com Quentin Sinagra
! No vote statement in message
root~linkadmin.org Xavier Spriet
! Invalid address
root~mauve.demon.co.uk Ian Stirling
! Invalid address
say1~tikauka.cs.waikato.ac.nz Stuart A Yeates
! Ack bounced
usenet~7d.com
! Invalid address
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--
JamesCX DiPietro (cdgzone at gmail.com)
Michael Fesser <netizen@gmx.de> wrote:
> .oO(JamesCX DiPietro)
>
>>Just read the newsgroup's charter for once. Varied posting styles are
>>allowed. Your incessant trolling is not.
>
> You want to read the charter again or post the parts that you think
> support your claim.
>
> Micha
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