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Posted by Jerry Stuckle on 11/05/07 01:03
dorayme wrote:
> In article <hf2dnY16g4LT_LPanZ2dnUVZ_jadnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> dorayme wrote:
>>> In article <4uCdnaAAs5pvqLDanZ2dnUVZ_qXinZ2d@comcast.com>,
>>> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> dorayme wrote:
>>>>> In article <nIadnR_KOZMCgLDanZ2dnUVZ_v2pnZ2d@comcast.com>,
>>>>> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Tables cannot really be
>>>>>> fluid.
>>>>> You have said this twice now but have not indicated what you
>>>>> mean. A table of tabular data can be very fluid or it can be not
>>>>> very fluid (because of poor design and the use of fixed widths
>>>>> etc). So what does it mean to say "cannot be really fluid"?
>>>>>
>>>> Let's see you wrap data in a table around a picture, for instance.
>>> Data? Around a picture? In a table? What will it prove to show
>>> text flowing around a pic in a table cell? If I can show you a
>>> table with a cell that has a pic in it with text flowing around
>>> it, will you then give up saying that "tables cannot really be
>>> fluid"? Are you just going to use the word "really" as a licence
>>> never to revise your statement and just keep hinting at its truth
>>> instead of enlarging on it so that what *you* mean is clearer?
>>>
>>> Just for the record, I do not think it is a good idea in general
>>> these days to be using tables for making new pages (using them
>>> for tabular data is another matter of course).
>>>
>> Just for the record - you asked for an example. I gave you one. There
>> are dozens more.
>
> First, I did not ask 'for an example'. Second, where is the
> example you claim to have given? And what exactly is it an
> example of? And you have not answered the question I asked you
> about what it would prove if *I* gave *you* a table with a cell
> that had a picture with text wrapped around.
>
> Look, I am not interested if you are merely saying something that
> is somehow supposed to be a placeholder for all the pros of
> semantic markup and good css styling. Even if you could rub a few
> words together and do this, you would be preaching to the
> converted. You made a claim that tables cannot be "really fluid"
> and I was merely asking what *you* meant by this. I can think of
> a few meanings, some of which support your claim and some not.
>
You wanted to know what I mean when I say a table can't be fluid. I
gave you an example.
Let's see you wrap text around am image using tables and NO CSS. The
page must adjust to any reasonably sized window and text size (i.e. not
72 point font as the default, and not a 20x20 px window), flowing as
necessary to fill the window and continue to wrap around the picture.
Such is simple in CSS.
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