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Posted by Chaddy2222 on 11/07/07 16:15
On Nov 7, 5:06 am, Travis Newbury <TravisNewb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 6, 7:45 am, 1001 Webs <1001w...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Nov 6, 1:25 pm, Chaddy2222 <spamlovermailbox-sicur...@yahoo.com.au>
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> > > 1001 Webs wrote:
> > > > On Nov 6, 12:50 pm, Travis Newbury <TravisNewb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Nov 6, 6:29 am, 1001 Webs <1001w...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Nov 6, 12:14 pm, Chaddy2222 <spamlovermailbox-
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> > > > > > sicur...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> > > > > > > Ed Jensen wrote:
> > > > > > > > Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I understand what you're saying - I do the same. But don't blame CSS on
> > > > > > > > > the developer's poor choice of font sizes.
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> > > > > > > > It's not really a font size problem. People viewing web pages should
> > > > > > > > be able to override the fonts and font sizes in web pages and the web
> > > > > > > > page should still render correctly.
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> > > > > > > > The problem is that when users do that, the web pages end up rendering
> > > > > > > > incorrectly.
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> > > > > > > > > Not if they're designed properly. However, there are too many people
> > > > > > > > > who think they're web developers who don't have any idea what they're
> > > > > > > > > doing. And they don't try different default font sizes.
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> > > > > > > > My experience has been that CSS based layout problems are pretty much
> > > > > > > > universal. Big sites, small sites, free sites, expensive sites,
> > > > > > > > amateur sites, professional sites.
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> > > > > > > > > Sure. Good CSS doesn't suffer from those problems. It's all in
> > > > > > > > > understanding the markup and testing.
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> > > > > > > > This is where we disagree.
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> > > > > > > > I've been in the software development field for a long time, and I've
> > > > > > > > come to realize that when almost everyone is using a tool incorrectly,
> > > > > > > > it's almost always because the tool itself is poorly designed.
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> > > > > > > > If almost everyone is getting their CSS based layouts wrong, something
> > > > > > > > is probably wrong with CSS based layout technology in general.
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> > > > > > > Nah I think you will find it's the designer. My main site at:http://freewebdesign.awardspace.bizshouldresizeifthefont size is
> > > > > > > increased.
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> > > > > > How can you say that you specialise in making websites that are
> > > > > > accessible to the widest range of people possible, if you need the
> > > > > > Flash Player to access the content of your website?
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> > > > > Flash IS content. A website is HTML and CSS. Everything else is
> > > > > content. So if you want to see Flash content, then you need the Flash
> > > > > player. If you want to see Java content, then you need Java, if you
> > > > > want to see WMV content then you need Media Player.
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> > > > > Everyone seems to forget Flash IS content.
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> > > > Maybe so.
> > > > But I doubt it can rightly be defined as accessible content.
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> > > Neather is audio for a particular part of the disability community,
> > > but the deff don't need descriptions of live audio content.
> > > The slide show is visual.
> > > You can't really be done any other way.
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> > I wonder if there's any way of tagging Flash content.
> > Some kind of description that you can attach to the embedded object.
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> Flash is completely accessible to modern readers.- Hide quoted text -
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Hmmm no it's not Travis.
It's getting better though.
But it's not accessible by default, you need to feed the content of
the Flash through the MSAA feature in Windows to get moddern screen
readers to read the content. Hence it only works in Windows and only
if the feature is enabled by the Flash developer.
But I think for most Flash stuff a short description of the movie
works fine.
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Regards Chad. http://freewebdesign.awardspace.biz
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