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Posted by Jerry Stuckle on 11/16/07 15:45
Lew wrote:
> Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>>> And yet - PHP is *constantly* used for large, successful projects -
>>> while
>>> Java sites are pretty much limited to pretty pinball games and such.
>
> Nearly every agency in the U.S. Federal government uses Java for their
> enterprise servers.
>
A large number also use PHP. Java isn't the only language used.
> A host of major health-care firms do likewise.
>
Ditto.
> IBM makes a fortune with WebSphere. BEA remains in business despite
> having been founded before the 2001 dot-bomb. How's Oracle doing lately?
>
It's a lot to you and me, but a drop in the bucket to IBM. And Zend
Studios doesn't try to make a fortune with PHP - rather, they give it
away - even the source.
And IBM makes a lot more money off of CICS than it does WebSphere.
> Sun's change of stock ticker symbol to "JAVA" was immediately followed
> by a bump in their stock prioe.
>
So? What does it prove? A change in a stock symbol often causes a
change in the stock price.
> Java remains by recent surveys the most "popular" language in
> professional use, slightly up from last year.
>
Who's survey? And define "professional use".
> This is not necessarily evidence of Java's suitability, let alone
> superiority, only that it's widely used, and in quite serious projects
> that do not involve "pinball games and such", let alone pretty ones.
>
I don't think anyone ever argued that Java isn't widely used. But so is
PHP, C, C++, COBOL...
> Or was that comment simply BS thrown out to inflame?
>
> In fact, Java has many features that make it suitable for enterprise
> systems. Being a strongly-typed, compiled language with runtime
> performance that equals or exceeds native-code statically compiled
> systems (C, C++), the extremely strong tools support with a broad base
> of well-funded suppliers proffering a healthy smorgasbord of choices, a
> large labor supply of trained practitioners and inherent support for
> distributed, heterogeneous programming make it a match for the kind of
> complex edifices needed in that market.
>
I have yet to see Java equal the performance of any decently-written C
or C++ program. Not to say that there aren't other things going for it
- there definitely are. But performance is NOT one of them.
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