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Posted by Chaddy2222 on 12/05/07 05:27
Andy Dingley wrote:
> On 4 Dec, 15:32, "jupri...@gmail.com" <jupri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I am not sure if it can even be done in frontpage,
>
> Everything that is doable on the web is doable despite FrontPage.
> Using FrontPage will however be a restriction on how easy it is to do
> things.
>
> Looking to FrontPage for any sort of tutorial or guidance function,
> including any of the wizards or WYSIWYG features is a recipe for
> disaster. You will _not_ produce a good website by these means. Even
> an expert will be unable to good work with FP unless they use the bare
> minimum of it.
>
> Your best route would be to throw Frontpage away now and pretend that
> it never happened. Microwave the disks to make sure.
>
>
> As a replacement:
I agree about FP, it's not a good program for web design it's has a
lot of extra code that it places in the HTML.
>
> * This newsgroup (also c.i.w.a.h)
>
> * The FAQs to these newsgroups
>
> * Searching Google Groups' web archive of these newsgroups.
>
I agree it's a good source of info.
> * A free open-source editor, such as jEdit or a squillion others. Try
> Nvu if you insist on WYSIWYG.
>
Well NVU is no-longer in development KompoZer is it's replacement:
http:/www.kompozer.net
> * A good tutorial book. Make it a good one - most are terrible. I like
> "Head First HTML with CSS & XHTML" from O'Reilly
> <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/059610197X/codesmiths-20>
> It's the best tutorial I know, and it teaches good "style" as well
> (this is very rare).
>
> I also like Lie & Bos' "Cascading Style Sheets"
> <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0321193121/codesmiths-20>
> This is a good CSS tutorial, accessible to HTML beginners too, and
> remains a useful desktop reference for CSS afterwards.
>
> * Web tutorials are a poor second to a good book. But try <http://
> htmldog.com>
The thing I dislike about HTML dog is that the beginer tutorial does
not use a doctype, and it should as it does not get people in to good
habits by not useing one.
>
> * <http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/cover.html> is also essential, as it's
> the
> "horse's mouth" for the specification. Not easy reading though!
>
>
>
> Now the important stuff! Avoid the _misleading_ advice and programs.
> We all know what we're meant to achieve, but there are so many
> distractions along the path it's like John Bunyan out there.
>
> Avoid any other books. There's some good ones out there no doubt, but
> I don't know what they are. As there are also a _vast_ number of
> downright bad ones, be cautious.
>
> Avoid anything that the denizens of these newsgroups don't hold with.
> It's the best and most skilled resource you're liekly to find.
>
Agreed.
> Avoid anything that offers to "simplify web design" for you. It's not
> that hard, you don't need it. These snake-oil tools want you to think
> that it's hard so that you'll waste money on them.
>
> Avoid anything from M$oft
>
> Avoid W3Schools.
>
> Avoid Dreamweaver. Spend the equivalent money on good single malt
> instead. Put it that way and how can anyone justify buying
> Dreamweaver?
>
>
Well as other have said, it's a bloody expensive text editor, you
might as well buy HomeSite as it's less expensive and similar.
I like Crimson Editor and KompoZer I use them both with the HandCoder
extention.
> > Let me preface this by saying I am teaching myself frontpage as I go,
> > and I have never designed a website prior to the one I am working on
> > now.
>
> Put down Frontpage. Get the Head First.
>
>
> > My site is not published yet, so I can't provide a link to see my site,
>
> You need to do that, and soonish. If we can't see it, we can't help.
> Read the archives: we flame people for posting snippets or whole pages
> - it's just about the only thing that does attract flaming.
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Regards Chad. http://freewebdesignonline.org
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