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Posted by Steve on 12/19/07 16:36
"???? ??? ??????" <aassime_91@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Excuse me!!
yes! excuse you!
> Would you stop for a moment?!
> O...man...Haven't you thought-one day- about yourself ?
> Who has made it?
uh, 'it' would refer to?
> Have you seen a design which hasn't a designer ?!
is there design in the universe? perhaps you should have a look at quantum
physics and try to comes to grip with randomness.
> Have you seen a wonderful,delicate work without a worker ?!
see things as they are...or prove there is something objective behind what
you claim is a work.
> It's you and the whole universe!..
> Who has made them all ?!!
randomness, evolution, and opportunity. this without the ego-centric notion
that all we observe now was an eventuality.
> You know who ?.. It's "ALLAH",prise be to him.
> Just think for a moment.
ok. so is this allah fella the one who, the omniscient one, who gambled with
satan over whether or not lot would crumble in diversity? did allah forget
he was omniscient, or what?
is this allah fella who said to observe the sabbath because he *rested* on
the seventh day after creating everything? isn't he omnipotent? guess he
forgot that two. and since the commandment comes directly from him to moses,
doesn't it seem silly that the universe is billions of years old and that we
can trace our existence to our arrival on the scene...and it did not happen
in the time span allotted by allah?
is this the allah who inspired the torah? the one who dispises the
babylonians...yet we see his 'inpiration' innundated with babylonian myths,
rites, and cultural notions? i mean, several passages in the torah are
almost a word for word match which the torah. the epic of gilgamesh was
written 2K years before genesis, yet the fable of noah's flood is a replica
of the same tale in the epic!
is this the 'one' true gawd?
> How are you going to be after death ?!
very still.
> Can you believe that this exact system of the universe and all of
> these great creation will end in in nothing...just after death!
why yes, yes i can. are offering proof to your claim that there is something
after death?
> Have you thought, for a second, How to save your soul from Allah's
> punishment?!
no, i find the notion of any gawd wanting to save my soul laughable when
they (gawds) seem to be trying their hardest to go undetected. when i love
someone, or even like them, i try to let them know in very real terms...i
believe making contact would be a prerequisit.
> Haven't you thought about what is the right religion?!
yes. and the only conclusion is that there is none because all fail to prove
that there is a gawd. further, those that say it can't be proven do so by
saying an infinite being (us) cannot know an infinite being (gawd). if that
is admittedly so, how in the hell could any religion claim that it is the
'right' religion?
> Read ... and think deeply before you answer..
yes, do read. try to muster a logical thought...at all!
> It is religion of Islam.
and your proof would be?
> It is the religion that Mohammad-peace upon him- the last prophet, had
> been sent by.
hmmm...the same mohammad that can't tell the difference between the voice of
allah and the voice of satan? seems his recant of the satanic verses was
merely his knowledge that islam was politically powerful and popular enough
that he could speak his mind without fear of exile...again! the satanic
verses were merely appeasement writings to get him out of exile...showing
his banishers that he was no longer a loon and was safe to let back into his
country! guess what...islam is *still* loony!
> It is the religion that the right Bible- which is not distorted-has
> preached.
not distorted? there or so many things that are incorrect about the bible
that it can hardly be seen as anything but a book some years from now will
be read in school in much the same way as greek mythology is today -
neutered because of its unbelievability by more logical and intelligent
people.
to say it is the divine word of gawd is to ignore historical influences,
facts in evidence, and would be the biggest distortion of all...truth!
> Just have a look at The Bible of (Bernaba).
> Don't be emstional.
> Be rational and judge..
to be religion, one must necessarily be irrational. and the one who judges
from that bench is one who should not be a judge.
> Just look..listen...compare..and then judge and say your word.
i hope this religious shopping methodology works for you. perhaps you'll be
able to find a religion that has slashed its costs - the price of foregone
reason. and, my word is FUCK...as in, FUCK YOU.
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