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 Posted by Onideus Mad Hatter on 12/19/07 21:37 
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:21:17 +0100, Michael Fesser <netizen@gmx.de> 
wrote: 
 
>Just for fun (I know, don't feed the trolls) ... 
 
Masochist much? 
 
>>Actually you moron, those sites that do degrade to a fall back version 
>>(like my primary site) are meant for Blackberries and other hand held 
>>systems...Lynx doesn't ever even enter the equation. 
 
>Wrong. 
 
*Hatter licks the salty tears streaming off yer butter ball cheeks* 
 
Cry some more for me, Mikey. 
 
>>>So what would be good enough reason to shut the door from users who 
>>>have a browser with no suppoer for javascript or javascript disabled? 
>>>Anyone? 
 
>>...the fact that such a browser doesn't exist. 
 
>Wrong, as usual. 
 
Then let's see you list them!  And no, Lynx doesn't count.  Oh, I'm 
sorry, was that going to be your ONLY example?  LOL 
 
>>I mean you can try and 
>>claim Lynx...but uh...Lynx isn't really a web browser by today's 
>>standards...it's just not. 
 
>Wrong again. Lynx is more standards-compliant than IE. 
 
....wow...just WOW!  I mean if you hadn't made an idiot of yourself 
before...boy that just takes the cake right there.  You oughtta tag 
that lil quote onto yer resume, Peaches, that way any potential 
employers will know right away what a fuckin retard you are. 
 
>>Trying to surf the Internet with Lynx 
>>would be like trying to surf the Internet with a Commodore 64. 
 
>Nope, it's like surfing from the POV of a search engine. 
 
Nope, nope, nope...sorry dumbfuck, but pretty much ALL modern search 
engines have the capability to parse pages with javascript in them, 
hell they can even spider text content in Flash files fer fuck sake. 
See that's the problem with retards like you though...it's like you 
learned something back in...oh like last decade...and then you just 
never went beyond that.  It never the fuck even occured to you, as 
stupid as you are, that THINGS CHANGE, technology changes, what was 
true one day will not be true the next.  From your perspective it's 
like you're trapped in 1996 and every failing argument you can come up 
with is based on technology up to that year (but never reaching beyond 
it)...this is whay you're always wrong...and it's also the reason why 
no one in their right mind would ever hire you for a web development 
position. 
 
>>Simply put...there's no reason at ALL why you should have javascript 
>>disabled... 
 
>Wrong again. The heavy abuse of JS on many websites is reason enough to 
>disable or at least restrict it. 
 
Which explains why other than...well you (and maybe 6 or 7 other spazy 
paranoid fruit loops) are the only ones on the planet who have it 
disabled.  Like I explained before, that 5 to 10% figure magically 
drops to nothing when you start looking at the agent string and start 
seein all the low level bot activity. 
 
>>and pretty much almost no one does (aside from a few fruit 
>>loops who think it's like some evul government plot to infect their 
>>dumbass with SARS or whatever).  And if you're looking at your web 
>>stats and seeing numbers like 5 to 10% having it 
>>disabled 
 
>You can't reliably see that from any stats. 
 
Well, I'm sure *YOU* can't, that deficiency however is not shared 
amongst the rest of us who aren't total fucking morons.  Every "with 
it" web developer keeps track of user activity and stats on their 
server which are easily accesible at any time.  And if you look at ANY 
sites stats you will likely NEVER find figures above 10% as far as 
having javascript disabled: 
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp 
 
On my sites and most of the sites of my personal colleugues we never 
see javascript disabled on greater than 2% of visitors...and nearly 
ALL of those are from old school bots.  The remaining are most likely 
fruit loops like some of you mouthy dipshits clinging to the Amish of 
the Internet mentality...and really, no one cares about you...nobody. 
 
>>...yeah...check the agent string you dumbfuck, THOSE ARE BOTS! 
>>Dum, dum, dum, dum... 
 
>Actually, providing accessible and usable websites is for people who 
>have something to say. So don't worry, it's not an issue for you, kiddy. 
 
This coming from a dumbfuck whose raping the W3C up the ass for 
directions.  You're the kind of college flunkie level dipshit who 
thinks if he can get his sites to pass W3C validation that, that will 
somehow equate to the greatest level of cross compatibility (read 
accessiblity). 
 
For morons like you, you often sacrifice design for the sake of what 
you claim is accessibility.  What you're too fuckin stupid to 
comprehend though is that design itself directly affects accessibility 
in the fact that if the design isn't any good...who the fuck is gonna 
want to even look at your site?  Yes, by making it glitzy and "cool" 
looking you might lose three or four Amish dipshits like yourself, but 
you'll GAIN THOUSANDS of people who LIKE that kind of design.  Where 
as if you catered to morons like yourself and presented all your sites 
as plain black text on a white background...yeah...other than those 
three or four retards...ain't NOBODY gonna bother visiting yer sites 
for longer than it takes to start hammerin that back button. 
 
>>>Oh well, when it comes to reality, I would not do this at all... I 
>>>would create a page that will look good on graphical and text-based 
>>>clients - from the most packed-up ones to those that support only what 
>>>is absolutely necessary to show a html-page (ie. lynx). 
 
>>Lynx is a DEAD browser that reached its peak more than a DECADE ago. 
 
>That's not the point. 
 
Yeah, Sparkles, actually it really is very much the point.  You're 
just far to dimwitted and slow to figure it out. 
 
>Such browsers 
 
What the fuck do you mean "browsers"?  There is no plural here, 
Dipshit.  There's ONLY ONE and its makers stopped development OVER A 
FUCKING DECADE AGO.  The fact is if the original makers of Lynx were 
creating it today it likely WOULD support javascript (as well as 
pretty much everything else).  It would still be text based but it 
would have the ability to examine javascript code, extract links from 
said code and then present them in a plain text format (same with 
Flash).  Of course...who the fuck would want to?  I mean back in its 
heyday there was actually some viable, coherent REASONS for having a 
plain text browser...at this point...not so much. 
 
>show whether a website is usable or 
>just binary garbage. If it doesn't work in Lynx, the site is crap. It's 
>that simple. 
 
Only if you're trapped in 1996, Fruitcake.  Those few of you that 
are...you don't matter.  I know that upsets you, I know you go and put 
on yer "angry pants" every time you get bitch slapped with the fact 
that your opinions are outdated and completely irrelevant...but other 
than providing yourself as entertainment...you do no good for your 
"cause".  Being an Amish of the Internet is one thing...but when you 
expect EVERYONE ELSE to cater to YOUR line of deficiency...that's 
where you crossed the line, Downs.  That's where you became this weeks 
entertainment package. 
 
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Onideus Mad Hatter 
mhm ¹ x ¹ 
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