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Posted by Harlan Messinger on 12/20/07 23:32

dorayme wrote:
> In article <5t060rF1b6ne0U2@mid.individual.net>,
> Harlan Messinger <hmessinger.removethis@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> dorayme wrote:
>>> In article <5sviorF1bho5pU1@mid.individual.net>,
>>> Harlan Messinger <hmessinger.removethis@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> dorayme wrote:
>>>>> In article
>>>>> <8c49b6c0-0f41-4fc3-9784-ad8f7938f7e7@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.co
>>>>> m>,
>>>>> Andy Dingley <dingbat@codesmiths.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't object to "extreme", so much as it's use to qualify
>>>>>> "obfuscation".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You appear to be using obfuscation to imply "camouflage" (potentially
>>>>>> discoverable, with effort)
>>>>> Anyway... without wanting to get involved between this business
>>>>> with Harlan and you, it did make me wonder how to categorize a
>>>>> kill-switch I am fond of wiring up for friend's cars.
>>>>>
>>>>> I like the idea of not hiding a switch because the damn thing can
>>>>> be found if the thief suspects it is somewhere. I prefer to put
>>>>> it right under his nose where there is nothing like a simple
>>>>> verification procedure for finding it:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah! A toggling thingmajig, click, click!
>>>>>
>>>>> No. Best for it not to physically be this at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Next there is another layer of ? obfus... what was the word?
>>>>> Anyway, I have a scheme to discourage the thief even suspecting a
>>>>> kill switch. Or at least to encourage a different theory in his
>>>>> evil head, namely that the car is just hard to start or flooded
>>>>> or out of petrol. I can reveal that I do this by ensuring the
>>>>> starter motor is *not* disabled.
>>>>>
>>>>> Naturally I can say no more. But I need a name for the general
>>>>> scheme. Perhaps I might patent it. (btw. anyone interested in
>>>>> investing, please send $US10 without asking anything in return -
>>>>> to show good faith.)
>>>> Another approach would be to have fake kill switches that look like real
>>>> ones all over the car--thousands of them--in addition to the real one.
>>>> *That* would provide real obfuscatory cover.
>>> A lot of trouble and expense though <g> Plus it would alert the
>>> thief to the avenue of attack. He could sample and get lucky
>>> with just thousands?
>> Well, in that case you can arrange it so that *none* of them is real,
>> fooling him into wasting his time on them while failing to notice the
>> truly obfuscated *real* switch that you've hidden and that looks like
>> something else. Like maybe setting the fan speed to the third out of
>> four available levels while pressing in the fifth station selector
>> button out of six on the radio.
>>
> Ah, your many real looking switches are decoys. Fair enough. But
> then that would tend to alert the thief to the presence of kill
> switch implentation.

No, don't you recall from "Victor, Victoria":

Toddy: Count Grazinski is our plausible diversion.

Victoria: Toddy, no audience is that gullible. They'll know he's a phony.

Toddy: Right.

Victoria: Well?

Toddy: They'll know HE'S a phony!

 

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