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Posted by Sir Robin on 12/26/07 11:07
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 09:14:55 -0800, Onideus Mad Hatter
<usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote:
>Why would you need one? I mean, no offense or anything, but if you
>HONESTLY don't know the answer to that question...well you sure the
>fuck ain't no web developer, that's for certain. And unless you
>dribbling lessers and wannabes want to start sending me a check for my
>teaching services...yeah...I'm not gonna hold yer hand and coddle you
>through the basics.
I know what it can be used to do - I just don't see why would you
(with the exception of very rare occasions) need it at all and when
you do need it you can in most cases go with very simple and short
script and still make your site work (and even look good) for those
who don't have javascript enabled or supported.
And I'm a web developer as well as multi-language programmer and
self-trained linux administrator (although there's still much to
learn, but for setting up and maintaining Linux+Apache+PHP+MySQL,
personal homepages, etc it's more than piece of cake).
I've made sites (nowdays just for practise) with javascript - never
one that would not work without javascript.
So where do you *need* it?
>>>Actually you moron, those sites that do degrade to a fall back version
>>>(like my primary site) are meant for Blackberries and other hand held
>>>systems...Lynx doesn't ever even enter the equation.
>
>>Never mind what they are "meant for" when the point is that they "are"
>>something...
>
>Not for long, Sunshine. Only a fool wouldn't recognize the incredible
>growth and expansion of handheld computer systems, most of which are
>already supporting Flash Lite and before too much longer will be
>supporting the same level of desktop computing.
Wan't to make a bet?
>That's why you don't want to invest much effort into your plain text
>versions, cause with the way development is headed even those handheld
>systems will be able to support your full site within a year or two.
>At that point there really won't be ANY reason to have plain text
>sites...well unless you're catering to some assholes in a third world
>country that are just now discovering the joys of x86 computing
>technology. *rolls eyes*
There are reasons to use a text-based browser... I use them now and
them eventhough firefox is 24/7 running on my desktop and always for
cases where it's actually faster and smoother to get the job done with
them. Most pages show up fine enough for my purposes in these cases.
>>With no respect to other writer and opinions like these beeing spewed
>>out as a holy truth, you really are not very fun...
>
>Well Sparkles, if you don't like it why don't you stop pissin in yer
>training panties
Because I'm not you.
>...actually that's pretty unlikely since if you were on my level of
>comprehension you would no doubt agree with me.
This certainly has to be one of the rare truths in your messages :D
>>>Trying to surf the Internet with Lynx
>>>would be like trying to surf the Internet with a Commodore 64.
>
>>Nope, actually if you compare lynx to a web browser that comes with
>>Contiki C-64 version (well, that's the only web browser I know that
>>exists for C-64 anyway...) you will find Lynx to be rather like a
>>smooth tiger.
>
>We're taking about capability here, not rendering speed. Plain text
>is plain text. If Lynx can only claim to do what the C-64 browser
>does but faster...
Nope, Lynx can do a lot more... Not to even mention Links.
>well that's not really an improvement, Sunshine.
>Hell if you ported the C-64 browser to a modern system I bet it'd run
>just as smooth, if not even smoother than Lynx. LOL
Smoother, certainly, but would not be that fun to use. You really have
no idea what Lynx can do, do you? Not to mention the browser shipped
with Contiki.... Otherwise you would know that there is no comparison
needed for seeing which one is better.
>>>Of course you don't, you seem very much to be an "Amish of the
>>>Internet". I'm entirely certain the whole idea of a drop down menu
>>>just scares the living shit out of you, huh?
>
>>You are getting better towards the end =)))) LOL
>
>...how fat are you exactly? I mean do you really have a triple chin
>every time you grin? *shudder*
I'm not american, dude.
>>>>I would
>>>>use a simple php script to provide a page with javascript for those
>>>>whose browser tells them to be IE and the normal version for
>>>>others....
>
>>>...you have no idea how fucking stupid that makes you sound, do you?
>
>>Do continue...
>
>If you weren't a retard, poser class, wannabe I wouldn't need to.
>Look up "browser detection" vs "feature detection" then feel
>stupid...REALLY stupid. *nods*
I have browser detections on most of my pages... Feature detection is
not something I have had much needs for... Mostly the browser
detection is for checking if the browser identifies itself as MSIE or
one of the most known text based browsers in case something has to be
done differently for them (mostly only MSIE needs extra work).
>I like how he has to continually remind us all of how much fun he's
>supposedly having, cause gosh know *I* really care.
You do seem to :)
> Maybe I should
>just stop every now and again in my posts and ask, "Hey Sparkles, are
>you still having fun? Let me know if you're not and I'll to make it
>more entertaining for you."
>
>...I mean, I *AM* your online babysitter, so it's kind of my JOB to
>keep you entertained, innt? ^_^
Sure is, I could not agree more :)
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