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Posted by Onideus Mad Hatter on 12/26/07 23:13
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 12:23:18 +0200, Sir Robin
<robsku@NO-SPAM-REMOVE-THIS.fiveam.org> wrote:
>>Of course, you OBVIOUSLY didn't translate said site since their
>>figures are looking at site ACCESS, not whether or not users have
>>javascript enabled or not. And no fuckin DUH most sites will "work"
>>to some level or extent without javascript enabled. The question,
>>that these German retards are missing, is WHAT functionality of the
>>site is being LOST. For example ALL of my sites will "work" without
>>javascript enabled...however on most of them the only thing yer gonna
>>get is a message telling you to install Flash and enable javascript.
>So they do "work" but they don't really work at all... Heh...
They work perfectly without stupidity...as you might imagine, I'm not
really sympathetic to your "loss". ^_^
>>Of course your sites work without javascript, you're barely floating
>>above the level of plain black text on a white background. It's not
>>as if you're even capable of presenting users with a dynamic, modern,
>>feature rich site.
>You can provide a rich site, you can use javascript if you do it
>correctly (althought it's not necessary) and your site can be highly
>accessible and easy to browse without javascript or page having
>javascript but in a way that it is not necessary for viewing...
The point you keep fumbling upon is viewing vs interacting. That's
the whole basis behind those who are poser class wannabes and those
who operate at a professional/artistic level. You can make a site
VIEWABLE without much more than simple HTML in most cases...however to
make that site INTERACTIVE...well, that requires a little something
more...something more than you're capable of delivering.
Any dribbling wannabe web developer can make the Internet equivalent
of a photocopied flyer...but if you ever want to actually CREATE
something...yeah, that's far beyond your current level of
understanding.
>>...and yet amazingly enough you STILL can't list them. Woah, big
>>surprise. *nods*
>>
>>Maybe if you try searching for "home brew" projects and such you might
>>be able to find some 7th graders computer science project in which
>>they "programmed" a "web browser" capable of reading a few basic tags.
>>LOL
>Ignorance is a bliss, isn't it?
Well you would know, huh Sunshine? Do be sure and let us all know
when you finally manage to come up with an example other than Lynx,
until then, keep fumbling out the backpedals for our amusement.
>>>Let's see, hmm, the latest
>>>version is from 2006-10-11. That's not exactly what I would call a
>>>decade, but of course YMMV. And the development goes on BTW.
>>You confuse open source molestation with official development. The
>>project is DEAD outside of home brew experimenting "led" by Thomas
>>Dickey. And retard like yourself can download the source, fuck it all
>>up, stamp their dumbfuck name on it and then put it out as a "release
>>version"...of course, only someone equally as fuckin stupid (read
>>"you") would actually believe that it was an official release in any
>>sense of the word.
>Zeros worth of an answer... Just "fuck you, I'm right" would had the
>same message in a much sorter format ;)
The sad thing is that your level of reading comprehension is so
incredibly low that, that's really all the better you could get out of
what I posted.
>>>It could, but doesn't have to.
>>Let me translate into the language of REALITY:
>>
>>"It could, but they don't have that level of skill to program it in."
>Oh, you know them? Oh well, nevermind, you are propably right then ;)
I don't need to know them to know what isn't there. It's real easy
for a lesser like yourself to claim that you "just didn't want
it"...but the reality of the situation is made abundantly clear when
one bothers to look at your portfolio and they can't find ANYTHING of
that level of coding ability. So either you're a lazy,
procrastinating slop job or you just don't have the intelligence to
handle it.
>>Content is nothing without presentation. On a fool would think
>>otherwise.
>Totally otherway around - presentation is nothing without content.
LOL, you really are a child, aren't you? ^_^
There's a joke in the retail world...it goes something like...you
could easily sell a shit filled diaper to someone with the right
packaging. The point being that often times you don't need ANY
content at all in order to sell something.
Humans are EMOTIONALLY intelligent beings and "eye-candy" influences
our emotional being more than the content itself. Often times it's
more important to convey emotions and feelings than it is to try and
get someone to figure out and comprehend some complex array of
arguments and facts. Facts are meaningless without emotions.
Presentation really is everything and content only serves as a tool
that can be used back it up with. If you have nothing BUT
content...nobody really cares. The goal of every web developer should
be to make the content itself apart of the presentation, the
experience, as that's the best way of delivering your intentions.
Anything less than that is just poser class kiddie shit, looking for
excuses to make up for your lack of ability.
>>>Nothing beats a non-graphical browser (or a "normal" one with disabled
>>>images) when it comes to download and rendering speed.
>>Yeah maybe if you magically traveled back to 1995 and were surfing on
>>a 14.4 connection, you bumbling retard. Not to mention that with most
>>sites the text content is shown first with the graphic content being
>>shown afterwards, so really, you shouldn't notice ANY difference in
>>speed...except for the fact that in about 1.7 seconds you'll see
>>images along with the text.
>Well, it does matter a LOT when I have only 4Mb connection, several
>servers for different purposes running more or less
>privately/publicly, many remote users, etc, etc... It most certainly
>does make a different when viewing todays over-bloated sites.
Most over bloated sites are a direct result of fumbling wannabes like
yourself who have no idea how to build a site past the plain black
text on a white background level without fucking it all up in 38
different directions. One of my favorite forms of attack in web
development debates is to take other assholes shit and then recode the
slop so that all the base code, images, video, etc are reduced to at
~least~ 50% of their original size with NO loss in visual quality.
But then, I guess you can't be blamed entirely, it's not as if they
teach things like split form, cross format and stacked form image
encoding techniques in any college flunkie level course. Most of the
techniques I use when building a site are based on principles that
aren't even glanced at in most college level curriculums.
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
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