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Posted by Jerry Stuckle on 12/28/07 03:52
Radio Man wrote:
> On Dec 28, 12:48 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote:
>> Radio Man wrote:
>>> On Dec 28, 1:01 am, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote:
>>>> Steve wrote:
>>>>> "Onideus Mad Hatter" <use...@backwater-productions.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:tqvcl3t38ndk471vucmckqe69anu2nh0aq@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:25:48 +1030, Michael
>>>>>> <michae...@pythontech.net.au> wrote:
>>>>>>> Chilly8 wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Jerry Stuckle" <jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:0v2dnWmDBPFamsvanZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>>>> It appears that by simply blocking incoming traffic from the networks
>>>>>>>>>> of three data centers around the world has stopped it. I have only see
>>>>>>>>>> one "phony" registration all day, coming from China. Blocking all
>>>>>>>>>> traffic from inHoster in Ukraine, Keymachine in Germany, and
>>>>>>>>>> FDC servers in Chicago has pretty much stopped the porn bots.
>>>>>>>>> For now. But how many legitimate users might you be blocking, also?
>>>>>>>>> Blocking an entire range of addresses is almost never the right answer.
>>>>>>>>> Just the expedient one.
>>>>>>>> I doubt I would be blocking any legitimate users, as those sites I
>>>>>>>> mentioned
>>>>>>>> are all server colocation facilities. It appears that somoene has
>>>>>>>> compromised
>>>>>>>> all the machines at least two of those server farms. It might be
>>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> some users, trying to use a proxy from work to acoid detection by the
>>>>>>>> boss, might be affected by blocking FDC servers, since a couple of
>>>>>>>> popular anonymity services use FDC for their server needs, but
>>>>>>>> beyond that, I don't think many legitimate users will be affected, but
>>>>>>>> there really is no other answer to the problem.
>>>>>>> With your logic, why don't you block the entire internet... you know,
>>>>>>> seeing a majority of spam comes from the internet and all.
>>>>>>> Granted this is where your spam is coming from RIGHT NOW, it wont be in
>>>>>>> a few weeks time. But thats okay, you will just block those IPs as well!
>>>>>>> When you have thousands of blocked IP ranges, are you going to
>>>>>>> periodically check them, to see if they have been re-allocated to some
>>>>>>> poor ISP?
>>>>>>> It is your site, but you should really consider other options.
>>>>>>> - Michael
>>>>>> Well, I for one don't really give a fuck. I mean if he wants to cut
>>>>>> off his nose to spite his face...let him. Further if you and he are
>>>>>> ever applying for a job and the interviewer asks for examples of sites
>>>>>> you've done that employ spam prevention techniques...guess which one
>>>>>> of you is gonna get the job?
>>>>> dude, jerry teaches. that means his job is not dependant on first-hand
>>>>> knowledge of the pitfalls of making bad decisions. he gets to research and
>>>>> reherse what he's going to say (theoretically) works. he's probably a good
>>>>> teacher. as for pragmatism and solutions that require inventiveness, he's
>>>>> not your guy. i doubt he will ever enter the cut-throught world of
>>>>> consulting again...outside of teaching. that's despite the fact that he is a
>>>>> competent developer.
>>>> ROFLMAO! Try again, troll. I do more programming in a week than you do
>>>> in a year.
>>> You have been saying that for a while. Have you got an example that we
>>> can view.
>>> --
>>> Regards Chad.http://freewebdesignonline.org
>> Well, Stevie has never proven he's a programmer. He's just a poor,
>> unwanted person hiding behind an alias and is deathly afraid someone
>> will find out who he really is.
>>
>> And if he were a programmer, he would know better than to post some of
>> the wild comments he does here. That right there makes it obvious he
>> doesn't know any thing about programming.
> Oh you were talking about that guy. Yeah your probably right about
> that.
> I agree that it's pointless to block the IP's though as it's time
> consumeing.
>
Definitely. Not only time consuming, but almost endless. I say almost
because right now there are only about 4B ip addresses to block. Of
course, that will get worse as soon as IPV6 gets more widely accepted.
>> I've never seen anything correct from him that can't be found on
>> hundreds of websites, and lots of incorrect junk - like PHP only runs as
>> a CGI under IIS, you can do post redirects in PHP, and he can steal PHP
>> sessions. These are all comments made in the last two to three weeks,
>> and just the tip of the iceberg.
>>
>> That says it all.
>>
> --
> Regards Chad. http://freewebdesignonline.org
>
>
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