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Posted by Gary L. Burnore on 01/06/08 05:02
On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:57:07 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
<jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
>Gary L. Burnore wrote:
>> On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:00:21 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
>> <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Gary L. Burnore wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 10:14:24 GMT, Doug Baiter <doug-baiter@no.where>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:26:11 -0500, Gary L. Burnore
>>>>> <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 21:47:33 GMT, Doug Baiter <doug-baiter@no.where>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:49:31 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
>>>>>>> <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dick Gaughan wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In <XrqdnW_lGbgurODanZ2dnUVZ_u_inZ2d@comcast.com> on Thu, 03 Jan
>>>>>>>>> 2008 14:03:11 -0500, Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dick Gaughan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In <C3A2D429.F13D%nospam@redcatgroup.co.uk> on Thu, 03 Jan 2008
>>>>>>>>>>> 18:04:25 +0000, Andy Jacobs <nospam@redcatgroup.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't get it. Why was the original post spam?
>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't. It was many things, including being a
>>>>>>>>>>> pathetically-badly disguised festering heap of marketing shite,
>>>>>>>>>>> but it wasn't spam.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Those insisting it was spam are merely flaunting their
>>>>>>>>>>> cluelessness. A post is *only* defined as being spam when it
>>>>>>>>>>> breaches the Breidbart Index. Nobody has provided any evidence
>>>>>>>>>>> that that particular bit of midge's effluence has exceeded the BI.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The Breidbart Index is woefully out of date.
>>>>>>>>> When was that decided? I must have missed that debate.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's been dismissed as virtually meaningless for quite a while, now.
>>>>>>>> SPAM has changed, but the index hasn't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In a.w.w, ads of any kind are considered SPAM.
>>>>>>>>> What aww might or might not consider is about as relevant outside
>>>>>>>>> aww as a spider's fart. I'm not reading this thread in aww.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fine. I am reading this in a.w.w., and it is spam here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The BI was adopted as a way of avoiding would-be Usenet vigilantes
>>>>>>>>> deciding to classify posts as spam on the basis that they disliked
>>>>>>>>> the contents. This discussion shows that the wisdom of that
>>>>>>>>> concern still has relevance.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So you have some meaningless, out of date measurement which doesn't say
>>>>>>>> something is spam or not, but only classifies the severity of the SPAM.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Right. Try again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Until someone else comes up with a better content-blind objective
>>>>>>>>> definition of spam, the BI is still the benchmark.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is. The charter and/or FAQs for the newsgroup. And the FAQs for
>>>>>>>> a.w.w., which were agreed to by the majority of the regulars here,
>>>>>>>> classify this as spam.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LIA[SLAP]
>>>>>> FAQs aren't charters and are not enforceable. Charters in unmoderated
>>>>>> alt gorups are also uninforceable. Off charter in comp groups, on the
>>>>>> other hand, is something that can get your news provider's attention.
>>>>> My bad - didn't look first at the group list. While perfectly
>>>>> acceptable in AWW, in a comp group you're right in that its off
>>>>> charter which *is* enforcable. Perhaps the zealots in AWW should
>>>>> attempt to have it reclassified into a group that has an official
>>>>> charter, but in the meantime nobody cares :o)
>>>> There's really no such thing as a valid charter in an alt.* group.
>>>> Alt.config is a bogus group of morons who want to turn alt into
>>>> another form of big8 groups. Never gonna happen. Of course,
>>>> moderated groups can and do control content but non-moderated groups
>>>> are freeform. Stukkie will just have to learn to use a killfile
>>>> there.
>>>>
>>>>> Nevertheless, please accept my apologies for the mistake.
>>>> Accepted. Unfortunately, Jerry won't stop crossposting back to
>>>> comp.*.
>>> Sorry, Gary.
>>
>> Liar.
>>
>
>Let's see you prove that statement, Gary.
You're doing it for me, Jerry. YOU are still posting to comp.lang.php
and he's not "making you do it". YOU are the one posting off charter.
YOU. Not him.
>you're just as bad as the troll is.
>>
>>> I have been attacked and maligned by two trolls in a.w.w
>>> who have cross-posted to c.l.p. and other newsgroups. I will not let
>>> those go away.
>>
>> Because you're owned. Owned owned owned.
>>
>
>Ok, let's tell your employer you're a criminal and a fraud. See if you
>like it?
Go for it, dipshit. I've been called far worse. My employer is
DataBasix.com. OOPS! Too bad for you.
>
>But you're obviously a troll - familiar over a bunch of newsgroups and
>message boards on the usenet. A quick search brings up several
>complaints about your trolling.
Poor little tard. You should surely soon be quoting that Jerry
Terranson website and stepping right into kookdom. Once you find it,
you'll see why I feel safe in saying that people who make up false
shit about you don't matter. YOU're the one who's making a fool of
yourself.
>
>So from now on I'll just ignore you - like the ignorant should be.
>
>>> However, it may not be a problem from at least one of these for much longer.
>>
>> If he loses an account because you lied to his NSP, I'll see to it he
>> gets a free account. Since you've decided to go play NetKKKop, I'll
>> take every one of your off charter posts to your provider, comcast. K?
>>
>>
>
>No lies. Just showing the ISP's what they've done.
Liar.
>
>And fine - post all you want to comcast. It doesn't bother me, because I
>don't spam.
You post off charter. You're doing it right now. Prove otherwise.
--
gburnore at DataBasix dot Com
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