|  | Posted by Jerry Stuckle on 01/06/08 18:58 
Gary L. Burnore wrote:> On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:24:22 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
 > <jstucklex@attglobal.net> claims he's ignoring me but writes:
 >
 >> Gary L. Burnore wrote:
 >>> On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 09:36:18 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
 >>> <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
 >>>
 >>>> Gary L. Burnore wrote:
 >>>>> On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:57:07 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
 >>>>> <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
 >>>>>
 >>>>>> Gary L. Burnore wrote:
 >>>>>>> On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:00:21 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
 >>>>>>> <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
 >>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>> Gary L. Burnore wrote:
 >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 10:14:24 GMT, Doug Baiter <doug-baiter@no.where>
 >>>>>>>>> wrote:
 >>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:26:11 -0500, Gary L. Burnore
 >>>>>>>>>> <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote:
 >>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 21:47:33 GMT, Doug Baiter <doug-baiter@no.where>
 >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
 >>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:49:31 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
 >>>>>>>>>>>> <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
 >>>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dick Gaughan wrote:
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In <XrqdnW_lGbgurODanZ2dnUVZ_u_inZ2d@comcast.com> on Thu, 03 Jan
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2008 14:03:11 -0500, Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dick Gaughan wrote:
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In <C3A2D429.F13D%nospam@redcatgroup.co.uk> on Thu, 03 Jan 2008
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 18:04:25 +0000, Andy Jacobs <nospam@redcatgroup.co.uk> wrote:
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't get it.  Why was the original post spam?
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't. It was many things, including being a
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pathetically-badly disguised festering heap of marketing shite,
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but it wasn't spam.
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those insisting it was spam are merely flaunting their
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cluelessness. A post is *only* defined as being spam when it
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaches the Breidbart Index. Nobody has provided any evidence
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that that particular bit of midge's effluence has exceeded the BI.
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Breidbart Index is woefully out of date.
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> When was that decided? I must have missed that debate.
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>>>> It's been dismissed as virtually meaningless for quite a while, now.
 >>>>>>>>>>>>> SPAM has changed, but the index hasn't.
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In a.w.w, ads of any kind are considered SPAM.
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What aww might or might not consider is about as relevant outside
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> aww as a spider's fart. I'm not reading this thread in aww.
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Fine.  I am reading this in a.w.w., and it is spam here.
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The BI was adopted as a way of avoiding would-be Usenet vigilantes
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> deciding to classify posts as spam on the basis that they disliked
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the contents. This discussion shows that the wisdom of that
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> concern still has relevance.
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>>>> So you have some meaningless, out of date measurement which doesn't say
 >>>>>>>>>>>>> something is spam or not, but only classifies the severity of the SPAM.
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Right.  Try again.
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Until someone else comes up with a better content-blind objective
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> definition of spam, the BI is still the benchmark.
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>>>> There is.  The charter and/or FAQs for the newsgroup.  And the FAQs for
 >>>>>>>>>>>>> a.w.w., which were agreed to by the majority of the regulars here,
 >>>>>>>>>>>>> classify this as spam.
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>>> LIA[SLAP]
 >>>>>>>>>>> FAQs aren't charters and are not enforceable.  Charters in unmoderated
 >>>>>>>>>>> alt gorups are also uninforceable.  Off charter in comp groups, on the
 >>>>>>>>>>> other hand, is something that can get your news provider's attention.
 >>>>>>>>>> My bad - didn't look first at the group list. While perfectly
 >>>>>>>>>> acceptable in AWW, in a comp group you're right in that its off
 >>>>>>>>>> charter which *is* enforcable. Perhaps the zealots in AWW should
 >>>>>>>>>> attempt to have it reclassified into a group that has an official
 >>>>>>>>>> charter, but in the meantime nobody cares :o)
 >>>>>>>>> There's really no such thing as a valid charter in an alt.* group.
 >>>>>>>>> Alt.config is a bogus group of morons who want to turn alt into
 >>>>>>>>> another form of big8 groups.  Never gonna happen.  Of course,
 >>>>>>>>> moderated groups can and do control content but non-moderated groups
 >>>>>>>>> are freeform.  Stukkie will just have to learn to use a killfile
 >>>>>>>>> there.
 >>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>> Nevertheless, please accept my apologies for the mistake.
 >>>>>>>>> Accepted.  Unfortunately, Jerry won't stop crossposting back to
 >>>>>>>>> comp.*.
 >>>>>>>> Sorry, Gary.
 >>>>>>> Liar.
 >>>>>>>
 >>>>>> Let's see you prove that statement, Gary.
 >>>>> You're doing it for me, Jerry.  YOU are still posting to comp.lang.php
 >>>>> and he's not "making you do it".  YOU are the one posting off charter.
 >>>>> YOU. Not him.
 >>>>>
 >>>> And your posts are on topic?  ROFLMAO!  Pot-Kettle-Black.
 >>>>
 >>> How's that ignoring me thing going, stukkie?  OOPS, did you LIE again?
 >>>
 >> ROFLMAO!  Keep it up, troll!
 >>
 >>>>>> you're just as bad  as the troll is.
 >>>>>>>> I have been attacked and maligned by two trolls in a.w.w
 >>>>>>>> who have cross-posted to c.l.p. and other newsgroups.  I will not let
 >>>>>>>> those go away.
 >>>>>>> Because you're owned.  Owned owned owned.
 >>>>>>>
 >>>>>> Ok, let's tell your employer you're a criminal and a fraud.  See if you
 >>>>>> like it?
 >>>>> Go for it, dipshit.  I've been called far worse.  My employer is
 >>>>> DataBasix.com.  OOPS!  Too bad for you.
 >>>>>
 >>>> Oh, you mean the one who can't even keep a website running?  ROFLMAO!
 >>> Hahahahaha.  DataBasix isn't a WEBSITE, dumbass.
 >>>
 >> Nope, but you can't keep a website up.  ROFLMAO!
 >
 >    From: Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
 >    Message-ID: <dMWdnRMixOBvfx3anZ2dnUVZ_qKgnZ2d@comcast.com>
 >
 >    WRONG ANSWER, FRAUD.  It has been and is registered.  You just
 >    can't find a web page for it.  Sorry, troll.
 >
 
 So?  Just because you can't find a website for it doesn't mean one
 doesn't exist.  But people can't find your site because you can't keep
 it running.
 
 >>>>>> But you're obviously a troll - familiar over a bunch of newsgroups and
 >>>>>> message boards on the usenet.   A quick search brings up several
 >>>>>> complaints about your trolling.
 >>>>> Poor little tard.  You should surely soon be quoting that Jerry
 >>>>> Terranson website and stepping right into kookdom.   Once you find it,
 >>>>> you'll see why I feel safe in saying that people who make up false
 >>>>> shit about you don't matter.  YOU're the one who's making a fool of
 >>>>> yourself.
 >>>>>
 >>>> A lot more than just one website, troll.
 >>> Bring it on, stuckkie.  You know you want to.
 >>>
 >> Not at all.  I don't have to.  Too many others have exposed you for the
 >> troll you are.
 >
 > Coward.
 >
 
 Nope, others have done a fantastic job on you already, troll.  I don't
 need to do anything more.
 
 >>>>>> So from now on I'll just ignore you - like the ignorant should be.
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>>>> However, it may not be a problem from at least one of these for much longer.
 >>>>>>> If he loses an account because you lied to his NSP, I'll see to it he
 >>>>>>> gets a free account.   Since you've decided to go play NetKKKop, I'll
 >>>>>>> take every one of your off charter posts to your provider, comcast. K?
 >>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>
 >>>>>> No lies.  Just showing the ISP's what they've done.
 >>>>> Liar.
 >>>>>
 >>>> Sorry, troll.  No lies.
 >>> Liar.
 >>>
 >>>
 >> Projecting again, Troll?
 >
 > Jerry claims suing is illegal
 >
 >    From: Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
 >    Message-ID: <dMWdnRMixOBvfx3anZ2dnUVZ_qKgnZ2d@comcast.com>
 >
 >    You'd like that, wouldn't you?  But I don't need to sue you.  There
 > are other ways to handle people like you.  I prefer the legal ways.
 >
 >
 >
 > Jerry on websites:
 >
 >    From: Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
 >    Message-ID: <ZfSdnXhomogIeh3anZ2dnUVZ_vCknZ2d@comcast.com>
 >
 >    Gary L. Burnore wrote:
 >    > On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:57:07 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
 >    > <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
 >
 >    >> Ok, let's tell your employer you're a criminal and a fraud.
 >    >> See if you like it?
 >    >
 >    > Go for it, dipshit.  I've been called far worse.  My employer is
 >    > DataBasix.com.  OOPS!  Too bad for you.
 >    >
 >
 >    Oh, you mean the one who can't even keep a website running?
 >    ROFLMAO!
 >
 > While also saying
 >
 >    From: Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
 >    Message-ID: <dMWdnRMixOBvfx3anZ2dnUVZ_qKgnZ2d@comcast.com>
 >
 >    WRONG ANSWER, FRAUD.  It has been and is registered.  You just
 >    can't find a web page for it.  Sorry, troll.
 
 Yawn.  Try something new, troll.
 
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