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Posted by Gary L. Burnore on 01/18/08 13:22
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:31:26 -0600, "Steve" <no.one@example.com>
wrote:
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>"Ali Bobo" <1001webs@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:3b0a3c54-0c8a-4465-9e33-566f84ecd966@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> 1. PHP.NET the greatest API resource known to MAN
>
>completely relative statement. i can safely assume you've not experienced
>*all* api's known to man!
>
>> 2. If you have a problem, someone will have already implemented a
>> solution in PHP for you
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>and this is in contrast to the support and examples/solutions afforded asp?
>think again.
That, and not EVERY problem has alrady been implemented.
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>> 3. Syntax is better, closer to C, C++, and Java. Unlike VB where
>> anything goes.
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>uhhhh, php is just as loose as asp - which is *vb script* NOT VB. asp.net,
>however, is more OOP capable than php AND forces strong data-typing. troll.
Frankly, I don't think he's smart enough to be a troll. :)
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>as for which stylistic preference you have in writing code, who gives a
>fuck?!!!
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>> 4. To run ASP you need IIS on windows, which is not free, for PHP
>> however you need Linux and Apache which are FREE!!
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>sorry, wrong again! i can run asp on linux boxes running apache. that
>technology is at least 8 years old, idiot.
You can run ASP on IPlanet, you can run php on IIS. He's definitely
wrong on this one.
>> 5. Great built in support for ftp, email, graphics package GD2 and
>> also MySQL (also FREE).
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>and, asp has *greater* built in support for these and more.
Welllll. The mySql support might be an exception. As I recal ASP
would use odbc rather than native calls.
>last time i checked, ms was giving asp.net AND a world-class IDE for it's development
>away...i.e. FREE.
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>next dumbass remark?
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>> 6. PHP will run on Unix, Linux, Solaris and Windows. ASP is mainly
>> only Windows associated but you can use it on linux with additional
>> modules installed.
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>which completely bastardizes your statement number 4...along with mooting
>itself in the process. are you that brain-dead?
Yep. Not to mention UNIX Ignorant.
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>> 7. PHP code is much faster, ASP is developed on the COM based
>> architecture, this is an overhead for the server.
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>and what version of asp are you talking about? the one from 8 years ago? asp
>as of right now can backwardly support com. it's architecture is completely
>OOP based and everything runs from a NON-COM based framework. asp performs
>equally in speed to php and in a lot of cases, outperforms it. one of the
>benefits of a company that creates a web language and also providing the os
>on which it will run, the functionality is built into the kernel itself.
PHP is interpreted so i'd say this one's a tie. All depends on how
much hardware you have. :)
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>> 8. mod_rewrite, need I say more.
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>the answer is, you need to say something that applies. mod_rewrite is
>apache, not php. as i can run asp via apache, your point is moot...again!
Hey, he needed a number 8. :)
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>> 9. Advanced Perl-compatible regular expression functions and loads
>> of built in support for regular expressions on the whole.
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>funny how think, or imply, that asp and regex are strangers to eachother.
>specifically, if i develop a vb < .net application, i have to reference the
>*scripting* library (you know, the web version of vb) in order to use regex.
>asp has *always* supported regex...vb.net is the first time regex was
>directly supported, without COM, in vb. geee, why would that be? because NO
>NEW LANGUAGES BY MS HAVE A COM ARCHITECTURES.
It's clear that he hasn't used ASP.
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>> 10. Greater control over error handling, and more detailed error
>> messages.
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>last i checked, try/catch/finally was introduced to asp around the same time
>it was supported in php. and, since it's the same construct, how do you
>suppose php has greater control.
Because he uses pho? :)
> further, both php and asp allow you to
>generate customer error messages. as for the defined errors, i can only
>laugh. leave out a semi-colon in php, run the page in the browser and tell
>me exactly what the error means...not to mention WHERE the *actual* error
>is. ROFLMFAO !!!
Gotta have a good tool, but it's not THAT hard.
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>and, btw, when could you ever seemlessly integrate external resources (not
>just modules) into php. oh shit! you mean you had to use COM(). lol. in asp,
>if an api exists, i can consume it.
>how easy is it to set up php for debugging?
Depends on your development tool.
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>can you use vb, c#, c, c++, or any one of 23 others to develop a php
>solution?
Wouldn't really need to. But since he's trying to debase ASP, your
comment is quite valid.
>
>can you switch, in code, mid-stream to from one language to another?
Yes.
>
>if you have no clue as to the technology against which you are making
>comparisons, how the fuck can you expect to be taken seriously?!!!
I believe you said it earlier. The word "idiot" covers it.
>further, how can you ever expect to pick the right tool for the job...which is
>COMPLETELY what makes one better than the other! it's all relative to
>changing factors that you don't even consider, troll.
Again, he's not bright enough to be a troll.
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gburnore at DataBasix dot Com
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