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Posted by Spanky The Thunder Chicken on 10/09/45 11:23
In article <o7kbf1h1pfjm8bd6r15fvn9us5ddljvvo2@4ax.com>,
Onideus Mad Hatter <usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 03:59:41 -0500, Spanky The Thunder Chicken
> <antny@meow.org> wrote:
>
> >In article <135bf153qf4tdqvvr6jfr56g8akfpja0et@4ax.com>,
> > Onideus Mad Hatter <usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On 7 Aug 2005 00:57:23 GMT, "FrankB" <you.can@request.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Onideus Mad Hatter used his keyboard to write :
> >> >> On Sat, 6 Aug 2005 15:41:15 -0500, Noodles Jefferson
> >> >> <silverbells@tacoshells.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>> Noodles -
> >> >>>> "It looks very cool. That's fucking trippy. I dig that alot.
> >> >>>> Props on that. Very inventive."
> >> >>
> >> >>> That was on your trippy flippy links things. Not the page itself.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> You did what I told you you were going to do. iframe all the way.
> >> >>
> >> >> The iframe is necessary, Bungles, it's how the script knows where the
> >> >> fuck yer mouse is at.
> >>
> >> >... and off course.. why make it easy whereas it can be simple,
> >> >Mattie.. ?
> >>
> >> Are you claiming it's possible to achieve layered drop downs like that
> >> which function JUST AS GOOD as the current method WITHOUT tracking teh
> >> mouse coordinates?
> >>
> >> Well step the fuck up, Junior! I'm not sure how they do things over
> >> in RETARD LAND, but over here in the tech froups you need to learn how
> >> to stop talkin shit and put yer skillz where yer mouth is at...or run
> >> the fuck away...or BACKPEDAL...and hey, do a REAL shitty job of it.
> >> ^_^
>
> >I haven't ever tried layered drop-downs, but you can track the mouse
> >over the entire body of the page without iframes.
>
> Sure you can...but think about where zero is in relation to
> dynamically centered content. That's why I used the iframe...well
> that and the table centering method alone won't work with the
> positioned division layers. I could go back to what I was doing
> before, but you seemed to think that didn't work so good on teh Mac.
You can use offsetTop and offsetLeft to get that info, but frankly, I
don't care which way you do it. Besides which, it gets screwed up with
tables. I was just saying it can be done. Mostly because I spent a
couple of hours figuring just the right way to make the mouse tracker
work when I first wrote it(leave it to me to start complicated and work
backwards to the simplest solution).
Anyway, if you're tracking the mouse, just use that position for the
drop-down, then you don't need to find 0.
The only reason I avoid iframes is that some browsers can turn them off
because of the "exploit"...then you're left with no content.
> ...it's funny though, I always find it fascinating how so many people
> often ASSume that I just arbitrarily make sites without actually
> meticulously testing nearly every viable alternative under the sun.
> Essentially I code websites like I encode video...I do quite literally
> dozens upon dozens upon DOZENS of different test trials in order to
> find the absolute best composition.
>
> ...sometimes I do make mistakes though...normally when I trust other
> people. I trusted Mimic with his centering design as it allowed me to
> have W3C compatible sites...but unfortunately as you've pointed out
> for me, that makes the sites incompatible with teh Mac. So it's back
> to my original methodology.
Like I said, I'm of the opinion you can do it however you want. Frankly
the W3C crap makes me ill...every time I start trying to comply, it
breaks the page in some way, or imposes some arbitrary lack of features.
Take, for instance, the use of "verticalAlign" style in a div. It just
doesn't work, sometimes. Whereas, (for layout) valigning table cells
works just fine (unless you define a W3C DOCTYPE, in which case it
doesn't work at all, again).
I mean, you could always use innerheight (oh, wait...no you can't
because that's not a w3c recognized element or attribute).
Fuck 'em, if it works.
> >My nephew asked me to make one of those date picking popup calendars for
> >him, and I had to do just that. Here's an example:
> >
> >http://www.meow.org/slide
> >
> >I even threw in a bonus and made it drop-downy on the second link (under
> >IE only).
>
> I see your using timouts as opposed to setInterval...I'm curious, did
> you have a specific reason for choosing that methodology or is that
> just how you learned it?
Actually, I forgot the function name (I use it about once every two
years and I always forget it)...I was looking for setInterval, but
missed it in the reference. Instead, I came across setTimeout. I kept
thinking "I could have sworn this thing used to keep going on it's
own...".
That's okay, because I actually didn't know about setTimeout, and I've
always hated setting timers that might only be needed once.
Learn something new, as they say.
--
Father Uncle Mac Usin' Antny
mhm 11x10
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