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Posted by Rincewind on 11/15/11 11:26
On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 13:08:58 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
>>> My main criticism - still not very strong -
>>> was that it would have been better to have included clear instuctions
>>> on how to run the sample programs.
>>
>> From the first page of the manuals tutorial
>> <Quote>
>> What do I need?
>> In this tutorial we assume that your server has activated support for PHP
>> and that all files ending in .php are handled by PHP. On most servers,
>> this is the default extension for PHP files, but ask your server
>> administrator to be sure. If your server supports PHP, then you do not
>> need to do anything.
> <?Quote>
>>>
>> fairly clear to me!
>
> 1. How many people have write access to a directory on a web-server?
Where does it, or I say that you do. What it says is what you need! How you
go about it is up to you. And why do you need write access, you need to be
able to upload to a web server, and then call the page through a browser or
install a web server locally (not just Apache).
>2. For those who do not, would it not be helpful
>to mention direct use of php?
>I would have said something like:
>
> Call this file "hello.php" (without the quotes) and give the command
>
> php hello.php
>
I have no idea what this is about!
>(Perhaps your idea of a newbie and mine are rather different?)
Obviously as I've said so before in this thread!
> 3. I would also have stated as a clear option
> that one could test the programs by running apache
> either on a machine on a home LAN, or on a single machine.
Again that's what it says <Quote> we assume that your server has activated
support for PHP</Quote> it isn't just Apache that runs PHP, You seem to
have a single minded belief that, and I quote from your earlier post
<Quote>most readers are running Linux and either have Apache already
installed or can install from rpm, or similar.</Quote> have you looked at
the manual? there is a complete section on Installation and Configuration,
seven chapters of it on how to install on much more than just Linux and
Apache. Read the page "General Installation Considerations" it explains it
all. It's too big a subject for a simple PHP tutorial.
>Since there are later (inappropriate, in my opinion) instructions
>on how to install apache,
>I assume this is intended as an alternative method.
Where? Are we reading the same manual? I can find how to install PHP on any
number of servers including Apache 1.3 and 2.0, but nowhere how to install
Apache. From the section on Apache 2.0 on Unix <Quote>Download the most
recent version of » Apache 2.0 and a fitting PHP version from the above
mentioned places. This quick guide covers only the basics to get started
with Apache 2.0 and PHP. For more information read the » Apache
Documentation.</Quote>
>Don't forget, I gave the tutorial 7/10 -
>pretty good, but could be better.
That's your opinion and I wouldn't argue with it, as I have already stated
my views in an earlier post in this thread.
>I think one requirement in a good tutorial
>is that the actual commands given should be "photo-copied".
Try as I might I can't get my computer to fit inside a Xerox machine :-)) I
can only assume, and I could be wrong, that you mean to have explicit
diagrams or code snippets on how to do things, I consider that they are
already there.
>A verbal description - such as the above
>"Just create your .php files, put them in your web
>directory and the server will automatically parse them for you"
>will not be understood by many readers.
After having installed Apache or IIS et al; locally if needed, installed
and configured PHP,(which in itself is no mean task) or uploaded to a web
server that has PHP installed I cant believe that any of the readers who
have got that far will not be able to understand how to put a file in a web
directory.
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