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Posted by Rincewind on 09/02/05 02:48
On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 22:50:48 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Rincewind wrote:
>
>>>2. For those who do not, would it not be helpful
>>>to mention direct use of php?
>>>I would have said something like:
>>>
>>> Call this file "hello.php" (without the quotes) and give the
>>> command
>>>
>>> php hello.php
>>>
>> I have no idea what this is about!
>
> Do you mean, you read the above and you do not understand what it means?
> In that case maybe you need a tutorial in the English language.
No what does it mean? Where do I give the command "php hello php", command
line, browser or shout it out from the rooftops, I don't think I need a
tutorial in the English language, but maybe you could tell me which one you
read and then maybe I'll understand you.
>
>>>I think one requirement in a good tutorial
>>>is that the actual commands given should be "photo-copied".
>>
>> Try as I might I can't get my computer to fit inside a Xerox machine :-))
>> I can only assume, and I could be wrong, that you mean to have explicit
>> diagrams or code snippets on how to do things, I consider that they are
>> already there.
>
> I mean - and I think this would be obvious to anyone who read what I said -
> that an actual session should be explicitly copied using a program
> like Unix "script".
>
> That is not the same as giving "code snippets".
Pre-supposing of course that I had any idea what a Unix script was, once
again you are assuming that every one has your level of knowledge or is
running the same system.
>> After having installed Apache or IIS et al; locally if needed, installed
>> and configured PHP,(which in itself is no mean task) or uploaded to a web
>> server that has PHP installed I cant believe that any of the readers who
>> have got that far will not be able to understand how to put a file in a
>> web directory.
>
> You seem to be singularly lacking in imagination.
> I am sure there are lots of newbies - me for one - who do not understand
> "how to put a file in a web directory".
What's that got to do with my imagination, I wasn't aware that this was a
short story contest and that I was going to have to make something up, and
if as you stated in another post in this thread that you where
<Quote>fairly experienced in C and Java</Quote> then I cannot believe that
you could go through the steps I mentioned above and still not be able to
put a file in a web directory, but then I was assuming that you had a basic
knowledge of computers.
>
> Re your criticism of my rather mild remarks -
> 7/10 is a pretty good score by my account -
> note that the author actually _asked_ for comments on the tutorial,
> which was the only reason I posted mine.
As far as I remember I never criticised your remarks, I simply pointed out
that I thought you were incorrect in assuming that we all used Linux boxes.
And if you had bothered to quote me properly my last post said I wasn't
arguing with your score on the tutorial.
>
> I happened to be in the position of being a php newbie
Me too
> who had just read the tutorial,
Me too
> and it seemed to me that I was in a good position
> to answer the author's plea.
Well, well me too. Where as I bothered to read other bits of the manual as
well.
> If I had thought the tutorial was useless
> I would not have bothered to reply;
> I thought it was good (as I said) but could be improved.
Fine as I've said I've never criticised you for your remarks on the
tutorial all I've tried to do is point out that I felt you where wrong in
your assumptions that we all used Linux, and the fact that you were stating
that the tutorial didn't have what you wanted, whereas if you had bothered
to look at the table of contents you would have found it. Which I notice
you failed to address in your last post.
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