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 Posted by "bruce" on 09/21/05 17:35 
i would have thought (perhaps wrongly) that someone would have created a 
series of functions/routines and wrapped them in a package/lib to deal with 
the security issues that i've raised!! 
 
but i have to tell you. i've looked at some open source classess/apps that 
aren't that strong. in fact, some simply have no real checks on the data 
types/structure of the data being inserted into the db at all... 
 
and aaron, your app is a commercial app. for now, we're looking in the open 
source area where we can get to the underlying source. 
 
-bruce 
 
 
-----Original Message----- 
From: Aaron Greenspan [mailto:aarong@thinkcomputer.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 7:18 AM 
To: php-general@lists.php.net 
Subject: [PHP] Re: security/sql issues with php 
 
 
Bruce, 
 
If you're looking for commercial-grade open-source packages, I think 
you're going to have a pretty hard time finding much. Most 
commercial-grade software is...commercial. The truly robust open-source 
packages, i.e. Mozilla, MySQL, JBoss, BerkeleyDB, etc., are backed by 
some sort of commercial, or at the very least, corporate, entity. The 
rest, more often than not, are not commercial-grade; the support 
structures that companies require just don't exist for those packages. 
 
I've offered to help you before via our commercial framework, Lampshade, 
which handles I'd say 98% of everything you want, and can be easily 
customized or added to in order to handle the remaining 2%. It's not 
open-source, but it also doesn't need to be since the documentation is 
so extensive. It's used in applications for all sorts of organizations 
from Harvard University to companies traded on the NYSE. There may be 
other open frameworks that are used just as widely--I would venture to 
guess phpNuke and the-CMS-formerly-known-as-Mambo--but as you've 
discovered, they don't do half of the things you'd like to see all in 
one place. Also, Mambo's political machinations are a good example of 
what you don't want to see in a commercial-grade product. 
 
If you want to keep searching, I suppose no one's going to stop you. I'm 
just afraid it's not out there. Anyone, correct me if I'm wrong. 
 
Best of luck, 
 
Aaron 
 
Aaron Greenspan 
President & CEO 
Think Computer Corporation 
 
http://www.thinkcomputer.com 
 
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