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Posted by Norman L. DeForest on 11/04/05 05:50
On 3 Nov 2005 oneone@gmail.com wrote:
> Hey Charles,
It would help if people knew which Charles you are responding to.
You should always quote at least the relevant portion of the posting you
are replying to and include attributions so people know *who* you're
replying to.
Quoting from another post:
: http://www.safalra.com/special/googlegroupsreply/
:
: If you find that, when you start a News reply, Google does not provide
: the previous article in quoted form, note what Keith Thompson wrote in
: comp.lang.c, message ID <lnwtuhfy7d.fsf@nuthaus.mib.org> :-
: If you want to post a followup via groups.google.com, don't use
: the "Reply" link at the bottom of the article. Click on "show
: options" at the top of the article, then click on the "Reply" at
: the bottom of the article headers.
>
> Not sure I understand why you consider my message spam? I thought spam
> on newgroups is when someone posts a totally off-topic advertisement
> like "Buy perscription drugs here!" or "Get great deals on product X",
> etc.
Spam isn't determined totally by the subject.
>
> I posted (what I thought was) a completely on-topic story about my
> experience with the amazon affiliate program. Isn't that exactly the
> kind of information that should be posted to alt.www.affiliate or
> alt.ecommerce?
Unless I am terrible mistaken, Charles was posting from
alt.www.webmaster (as am I at this time) which has this in its FAQ
(among other stuff):
: ¤ Unsolicited commercial messages of any kind
: are prohibited, and will probably be reported
: to the sender's ISP and web host etc. by one
: or more of AWW's regular participants.
: "Commercial" is defined in The American Heritage®
: Dictionary as "Having profit as a chief aim" and
: that's an excellent way to define the type of
: messages we don't want. You cannot promote your
: web site, offer to "sell" anything, exchange links,
: form partnerships, etc.
:
: ¤ Genuine offers of paid employment are acceptable,
: as long as the offer is for a fixed hourly rate,
: price per page, or a contract rate. Posting an offer
: to trade web design for future profits is not allowed,
: unless you have prepared a written business plan that
: includes the percentage of shares/profits we will
: receive for our speculative investment of time, and
: any other pertinent details.
:
: ¤ A newsgroup has been specifically created for
: those offering products and services of interest
: to webmasters. You are welcome to post your ad in
: alt.www.webmaster.ads (AWWA).
: See http://awwa.aww-faq.org/ for the AWWA FAQ.
: If your ISP doesn't carry it, please ask them to do
: so. Do not cross post messages to AWW and AWWA.
> Sorry, not trying to be a spammer, I'm honestly confused by your
> objection.
Affiliate spam (or *alleged affiliate* spam) shows up frequently enough
that some people have hair triggers when the word "affiliate" is mentioned
in a post (and they usually turn out to be right). This frequently
includes fake requests for "Could you review my site and suggest
improvements." whic are occasionally posted here not to get advice but
just to get people to click on affiliate pay-per-click redirectors.
In the past, "shoot first and ask questions later" could have been a
survival trait and may be partially hardwired into our genes. Those who
waited to find out what made that noise in the woods before taking action
frequently found out what made that noise seconds before being eaten by
what made that noise. Those who acted first (shoot and run) and then
investigated (from much farther away) more often lived to pass the results
of their investigations (and, sometimes, some fresh meat) on to the rest
of their family or tribe.
--
Norman De Forest http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~af380/Profile.html
"> Is there anything Spamazon DOESN'T sell?
Clues. The market's too small to justify the effort."
-- Stuart Lamble in the scary devil monastery, Fri, 13 May 2005
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