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Posted by Spartanicus on 12/28/05 17:54
"Greg N." <yodel_dodel@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>Yes, it would result in an incomplete page being rendered. This has
>>>happened many times when new HTML elements were introduced.
>>
>> Name an example.
>
>Script.
To be used for optional fluff only, it should not result in a broken
page. The fact that you can use Javascript or CSS in ways that would
render an HTML page incomplete cannot be attributed to a fault in HTML.
The introduction of the script element could result in it's content
being parsed by non <script> aware UAs, this was dealt with by using
HTML comments in the script element's content whilst pre HTML 3 UAs were
relevant. This is only possible when the content isn't parsed by an SGML
parser such as a Javascript or CSS parser.
>Iframe.
Embedded content, a non issue as I explained in my previous post.
>Frame.
A fundamentally flawed concept, a leftover from the dark days before
some sense was applied to the language by W3C who you are now
criticizing for not including another fundamentally flawed concept into
HTML4.
>Style.
See comment on script.
>Img. Object. Applet.
Like iframe a non issue, again see comment on embedded content in my
previous post.
>Apart from that, you may take every single one of your arguments and
>replace INCLUDE with one of the elements above. Your arguments would
>have the same validity, yet all the elements above were deemend worth
>implementing.
Again: it's not an issue if *embedding* fails, this is normal expected
behaviour for which proper fall back mechanisms exist.
Client side inclusion would break documents, there is no fall back
mechanism possible other than replicating the included external content
verbatim in the calling document which makes a mockery of the purpose
of client side inclusion.
>Please make an attempt to explain to me why this would be any worse or
>more complicated than the introduction of the, say, IFRAME element.
I've done so more than once now, but apparently you've stuck your
fingers stuck in your ears whilst lalling "nana na, can't hear you".
Fine, I tried, bye.
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Spartanicus
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