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Posted by Samman on 01/12/06 05:08
"William Tasso" <SpamBlocked@tbdata.com> wrote in message
news:op.s28nmmmim9g4qz-wnt@tbdata.com...
> Fleeing from the madness of the Road Runner High Speed Online
> http://www.rr.com jungle
> Samman <sam@psfripitdev.com> stumbled into
> news:alt.html,alt.www.webmaster,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html
> and said:
>
>> "William Tasso" <SpamBlocked@tbdata.com> wrote in message
>> news:op.s28kw5opm9g4qz-wnt@tbdata.com...
>>> Fleeing from the madness of the Road Runner High Speed Online
>>> http://www.rr.com jungle
>>> Samman <sam@psfripitdev.com> stumbled into
>>> news:alt.html,alt.www.webmaster,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html
>>> and said:
>>>
>>>> "granpaw" <dontsend@here> wrote in message
>>>> news:dNqdnVPg9-_jwF_eRVn-hQ@centurytel.net...
>>>>> MajorSetback@excite.com wrote in
>>>>> news:1136679729.465295.312080@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Peter,
>>>>> No one needs to use a bloated (IMHO) webpage editor that costs big
>>>>> money
>>>>> and adds all kinds of useless junk to your code usch as DW or
>>>>> Frontpage.
>>>>
>>>> </snip>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can you be more specific about what DW adds to the code?
>>>>
>>>
>>> example only:
>>>
>>> <table>
>>> ...
>>> <tr width="270">
>>> <td></td>
>>> <td></td>
>>> <td></td>
>>> <td></td>
>>> <td></td>
>>> <td></td>
>>> </tr>
>>> </table>
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
>>>
>
>>
>> That is indeed interesting...
>> I have been working with DW in a production environment for about 4 years
>> and have not witnessed code (markup) being generated like that, unless
>> asked
>> to do so.
>
> well - yes, that's the point isn't it.
I failed to see any "junk"... Isn't that the point?
>
>> Example. I asked DW to make a table, 100% in width, 3 rows and 2 columns.
>> Here is the markup it gave me...
>>
>> <table width="100%" summary="test table">
>> <tr>
>> <td> </td>
>> <td> </td>
>> </tr>
>> <tr>
>> <td> </td>
>> <td> </td>
>> </tr>
>> <tr>
>> <td> </td>
>> <td> </td>
>> </tr>
>> </table>
>
> Ahh yes - forgot the - apologies, above was from memory.
I can see where this may be going.
>
>> The non-breaking spaces it inserts are just placeholders, where other
>> objects/content would be placed. After content is added, it looks like
>> this
>> (no code cleaning was done)...
>>
>> <table width="100%" summary="test table">
>> <tr>
>> <td>Lorem ipsum dolor si</td>
>> <td>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consect</td>
>> </tr>
>> <tr>
>> <td>Lorem ipsum dolor sit am</td>
>> <td>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscin</td>
>> </tr>
>> <tr>
>> <td>Lorem ipsum dolor sit </td>
>> <td>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectet</td>
>> </tr>
>> </table>
>>
>> Looks pretty clean to me, nicely indented, etc...
>
> markup looks just fine and dandy[1] - goes to show that power-tools make
> stuff quicker, not necessarily better[2]. Not sure where you're posting
> from, but in AWW we see a lot of empty tables when reviewing
> DW/FP/whatever generated pages
A cave in the Appalacian Mtns. , on Mars, in Ted Kennedy's car going over a
bridge.
????
>
>> I'm not trying to convince you to use the tool. Use whatever you are
>> comfortable, happy & productive with. :-)
>
> Likewise - live long and prosper.
.... and may the Force be with you :-/
"Have any of you nerds actually SEEN a vagina? If you had a police line-up
with a vigina, a donut, and a mop, would you be able to pick out the vagina?
Cause the minute you can, you're gonna throw that Stormtrooper cookie jar
right out the window!" - Bobcat Goldthwait
>
> [1] usual caveats about correct use of table markup applies
> [2] the number of people that can't drill a straight hole is truly
> astonishing
> --
> William Tasso
>
> Save the drama
> for your Mama.
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