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Posted by dorayme on 10/21/05 05:56
> From: Mark Parnell <webmaster@clarkecomputers.com.au>
>
>> Mark Parnell has been putting the
>> boot into me
>
> Not for a while.
>
>> and I have been busy removing frames from one of my
>> sites,
>
> Ah, it's like music to my ears.
>
>> it is a big job
>
> I'd believe it.
>
>> and I have 1 big section done and another
>> on the way.
>
> Good to hear.
>
And it is better for it, seriously. One reason being I have had
to somewhat redesign and it has gained improvements apart from
frames. No need to read the rest. It is not a call for help.
I am still using a single table wrapper which at the next stage
will be gone too. I am still undecided between tableless
strategies for this particular site. Mainly 2 or 3 tds (cols)
and 1 tr. (The real position is more complex with footers and in
some of the index and section index pages, a header and horiz
strip "outside" the wrapper)
One schema - for mainly 2 and three col layout that works
promisingly is this: absolutely positioned main content (em
margined to match) and the other(s) just float left and right
(not necessarily using the css "float"). One advantage being
that such a content div can be put at the top of an html page
and is seen first (it being the important part on this
particular site and this particular audience) by older or other
browsers that do not like the css...
The other design is a simpler mostly all float left, with a min
width in the body...
So far none as rock solid stable as my table wrapper with simple
2 or 3 tds, one row only. It has made my conversion from frames
easier as I use simple grep search and replace for the whole
section... and I keep an eye out for how to further replace the
table wrapper when I make up my mind. I cannot go tableless till
I fire up my windows machine and see how other browsers exhibit
my efforts. When I say rock solid, I mean rock solid as in not
breaking even when the fonts are enlarged outside the /average
range/ of possibilities, columns disappearing and dropping or
min-width causing the horiz scroll bar to appear somewhat too
early (harmless enough but annoying to me), yes I know I am
/supposed/ to be in control of this but you should see what
actually happens :) and I worry about Windows IE misbehaving (I
heard it ignores min width)...
There are lots of issues. I just notice how one simple table
lets me not have to juggle through so many. The truth is that
when one goes away from this single simple table wrapper, one is
probably better off not trying to even do what the table design
does. (As I have on other designs. I would not like to even try
to mimic them in tables as a reverse exercise!) Trying to match
one for one in appearance is not the best thing to do. That
means even more serious rethink and since I have already done so
much design work, I want to delay this...
Why am I telling you all this? Because you are my conscience.
You are there and I confess as in a Catholic confession booth
where one does not see the bloke in the next box... It is meant
to be good for the soul... And it just may help some newbie to
know that even after a bit of experience, it is still a fight to
juggle all the issues one knows about never mind worrying about
the ones one might not know about. And hey, look at me! Has it
sent me mad? Obviously not.
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