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Posted by Borrox on 10/21/05 11:04
"Barbara de Zoete" <b_de_zoete@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:56:23 +0200, Borrox <Spamoff@foad.co.uk> wrote:
>> "Barbara de Zoete" <b_de_zoete@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:op.syxpbdmvx5vgts@zoete_b...
>>> On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:27:24 +0200, Borrox <Spamoff@foad.co.uk> wrote:
>
> <url:http://www.nigs1000.f2s.com/index.htm>
>
>>> To top all that, the looks as I first arive, are bad too.
>>> <http://home.wanadoo.nl/b.de.zoete/_test/ttr.png> Hint: You don't know
>>> the
>>> size of my viewport, you don't know if your visitor can see your
>>> images,
>>> you don't know what the default background color of the browser of your
>>> visitor is.
>>
>> Ouch!
>
>> Do you have any advice about the tables,
>
> <url:http://groups.google.com/groups?q=tableless+design>
>
>> javascript
>
> Javascript is okay to use, as are java applets, Flash and the likes. What
> they have in common is, that they run client side, either by client side
> scripting of because of a plug-in the client needs to have installed and
> running.
> Just realize that anything that gets computed client side (that includes
> your code for markup and any stylesheets too) can fail. So, don't rely on
> it. If you create a menu with javascript of an applet or Flash, be sure
> it is at least also available in plain html. Better work the other way
> around: first create pages that could work in any situation in any given
> browser, than spice them up with client side scripts, or stuff that needs
> plug-ins.
>
>> and how to make it all work and viewable to most?
>
> <url:http://groups.google.com/groups?q=fluid+OR+liquid+design>
> <url:http://groups.google.com/groups?q=accessibility+usability>
>
>> The background is tiled a pale blue I don't understand how you see a
>> bright
>> sickly horrid purple,
>
> Your pale blue must be an image? I don't run images. They are hardly ever
> content (just eye candy) and one can do without (saving bandwidth). The
> 'bright sickly horrid purple' :-) is the background _colour_ I set in my
> browser viewport, so I don't miss mistakes with background colours I
> could make for my own pages.
> Sometimes it shows up with the pages of someone else. That only happens if
> you didn't set a background _colour_ for your pages. Colour being
> something else than image.
>
>> any ideas how I can get browsers like your to view
>> correctly?
>
> I hope you can distill them from the above reply. :-)
>
Hi Barbara
Thanks for the very informative reply and suggestions. It seems I have made
countless newbie errors. I wanted criticism of the site good, bad and was
even expecting to be flamed (in general that is), but every reply was of
help (bar one ot two that did nothing really).
I will be bookmarking those sites and read through them.
I will be re-working the site as a whole and make a number of very big
changes (for the better I hope) and leave the original until I am finished
as in many cases especially the images are on the same bachground , so to
change to a solid background colour at this instant would be bad.
Many thanks for your help.
Nig
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