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Posted by Noodles Jefferson on 11/17/05 11:38
In article <o1dln19iqq8a9raan816rsl0382ddqrrms@4ax.com>, Onideus Mad
Hatter took the hamburger, threw it on the grill, and I said "Oh wow"...
> On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 18:35:45 -0600, Noodles Jefferson
> <silverbells@tacoshells.com> wrote:
>
> >> >And there's nothing wrong with that. But to be perfectly honest, you
> >> >could use a little guidance. You've got some wrong ideas about how to go
> >> >about creating websites.
>
> >> According to who?
>
> >Me.
>
> D00d, you've made like ONE website and it's shit, you're hardly in any
> position to be telling people what they should and shouldn't be doing.
Okay, creepy care bears guy. Whatever you say.
>
> >> My sites look better and function better than the
> >> majority of sites on the Inet, Kiddo.
>
> >Define function. Can I get up to the minute news on your site? Buy a T-
> >shirt. Do a search? Play a game?
>
> What makes you think anyone on the whole of the fucking PLANET would
> go to your run down shit site for up to the minute news when they can
> just go directly to the source: www.cnn.com
Because I don't do up to the minute news. Oh sure, I guess I could put
some RSS feed on there, but it wouldn't be CNN. Honestly, I get all of
my news from the internet now. It's like having a free newspaper with
all of the stories I want to read with none of the ones I don't.
And again, I didn't grep the material from CNN. The quotes are from
Libby's actual indictment. Should know me better than that by now.
Dumbshit. This is why I always punk you out.
And it's a bad ass little page. Better than you can do, with your
disturbing dumb care bears fanfic. (Which is in and of itself
disturbing.)
If I had more time, I'd probably do more with it but I'd rather pull all
A's this semester, thanks. You just sit there and be a gibbering tool.
K? Great.
> Fuckin DUH. And if you wanted to run a search: www.google.com
Or you can just do it from my page. That way you can look up things
like, eminent domain, which you've already proven you know nothing
about.
> Fuckin DUH. As for "buying a t-shirt" and "playing a game", come on
> fool, don't be stupid.
Beats 10 chapters of care bear creepy drivel.
>
> >Basically this is the functionality in your page.
>
> ...no, you can't actually do any of those things on any of my SITES.
>
> >You can read things on a couple of pages. You can click to get something
> >from a link and....that's about it.
>
> Well that's the whole point, Stupid, my sites don't try to do anything
> that they don't need to, I don't need silly little hoo ha and
> bullshit.
Whatever.
I guess you're too dumb to realize you can do a whole site in flash. Why
don't you just do that? You're heading that way anyway. May as well get
something for your pretty pictures and let your insanity shine in all of
it's ridiculous glory. Yeah, do your site in flash. Hell, do *any* site
in flash. I'd like to see what you'd try and pull off using more than a
background picture and iframe and some javascript.
> Honestly, why don't you add a fuckin temperature display
> and daily calendar to your shit while you're at it, LOL.
No reason to. Got a window? Open it. There's your weather. Calendar? You
can find out the date by hovering your mouse over the time in the lower
right corner of your screen. I don't sell airline tickets or anything
that requires a schedule, so I don't really need a calendar.
>
> >Shit, I can do that and I didn't even need flash and an iframe for it.
>
> Oh boy, there ya go molesting the iframe again. Do you even KNOW what
> an iframe is, Stupid?
Yeah, it's the thing you always use to make your content show up. It's
not like you haven't done it with damn near every other page you've
done.
>
> >I'll give you look. You make a nice picture. Your links work. Hooray.
> >That's what's supposed to happen.
>
> You can watch video on my several of my sites...original stuff at
> that...oh, I win! ^_^
Oh? You suddenly became the offspring?
>
> And then if you wanna talk about the CB site, *whistles*, we're talkin
> over 200 megs worth of content, Sunshine. Might not be too appealing
> to you, but teh kiddies like it...well, you are a kiddie though, so I
> guess maybe you would like it.
Did you know you're linked on wikipedia?
Congratulations on being confirmed as the gayest thing ever.
>
> >But it's not easily updatable,
>
> Oh it's very easy to update...well for me. You wouldn't have any
> fucking clue as to how to update any of it.
You couldn't pay me enough to deal with your creepy crap.
>
> >I'm sure it's not easily maintainable
>
> See above.
>
> >and your download times take f...o...r...e...v...e..r.
>
> Yeah a WHOLE megabyte, WOW that's a lot...*Hatter noticed another
> 27gig torrent has just finished downloading and snickers at Noodle's
> dialup connection*
Um...I'm using DSL, douche. Why'd you snip that part out?
Oh yeah, because you're dumbass that has to resort to post editing
because you're full of shit.
>
> You're quickly becoming the minority, Junior...
> http://www.physorg.com/news6899.html
>
> Nobody cares about you. *shrugs*
>
> Making cutting edge sites often means giving the finger to lessers
> like you...which the majority of us gladly do.
If I need something that requires an age requirement of 8 or less, I'll
drop you a line.
>
> >I didn't even stick
> >around to wait for your battleship battle thingy and I actually wanted
> >to see it, because I didn't want to wait 3 minutes on a DSL connection
> >for the thing to load up. Unless you have javascript and flash enabled,
> >you can't even look at the site anyway.
>
> Well unless you're apart of the 10% of retards that has Javascript
> disabled I don't see how it's a problem...well not for me anyway.
Nice of you to call several million people retards. Way to direct people
to a site. Especially on usenet, where more than a few people surf
without JS.
>
> >That's not good. You make a neato picture. That alone doesn't make for a
> >good site.
>
> Stupid, you don't even HAVE a "good site", let alone know what makes a
> good site.
http://www.geocities.com/tryppee999/politics/index.html
Better than your piece of crap page that takes forever to load.
You can feel free to use a little CSS for positioning at any time. Putz.
>
> >> Primarily to differentiate between IE for the Mac and IE for the PC,
> >> one of which supports direct use of PNG alpha transparent images, the
> >> other requires using directx transform filters.
> >>
> >> You see Noodle Head, it's not that I'm doing something strange or
> >> something I don't need to do...
>
> >It is something strange and it's something you shouldn't need to do.
>
> ...well yeah, actually it is something I need to do you dribbling
> little cluster fuck, if I didn't most of my sites would be completely
> inaccessible to dialup kiddies like yourself.
You should go with that make it inaccessible to everyone.
> Split form image
> techniques often require the use of PNG alpha transparencies in order
> to pull them off...again though, this is something you have absolutely
> no understanding of AT ALL, so I wouldn't expect you to grasp.
I don't need to worry about it. I have a pictures I can use no matter
what browser people use.
And yet, I don't know shit about webdesign. Okaaaaaay tard, whatever you
say.
>
> >You should have more 'general-purpose' pictures for lack of a better term.
> >
> >What I mean by that is, you're serving up two types of pictures based on
> >what browser people have. Why not have just one type of picture that
> >everyone can see?
>
> Does it hurt to be as DUMB as you? Don't you comprehend that
> different browsers/operating systems handle image gamma differently?
>
> http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/fuckinduh.png
Who gives a shit? I don't because I don't need to. You're welcome.
>
> >> it's just you can't comprehend the
> >> reasoning and function behind it because all you have is book
> >> learning...most of the stuff I've done you couldn't find in any book.
>
> >There's no book that told me how to do a three column div layout.
>
> Why do your division layers need to be columns?
Because otherwise it'd look like a jumbled mess. Duh.
>
> >There's no book that had to tell me that people don't want to wait
> >forever to see something, nor did any book tell me that people want to
> >get information from a site.
>
> Not really much a problem for you in either even since NO ONE EVER
> GOES TO YOUR SITE...oh hey, people go to my sites though, despite how
> lacking you try and posture them. Funny that, huh? ^_^
I go to your site for flame fodder. It's a pretty rich resource. I'm
also doing my page for me, not for an audience. I give the link for it
but if nobody ever clicks, that's fine. It's just a geocities link for
grins. I guess I could put pages about me on there but I'm pretty
boring.
>
> >To be honest, I wouldn't want to do the
> >things you do on a site. I can get my point across in quicker, more
> >efficient ways with content that doesn't make people want to roll their
> >eyes.
>
> You can't get any point across when you can't even get people to GO to
> your site in the first place ya fuckin goober.
I'm doing the page more for me than anything. It's free, with a decent
enough interface to code my own html. Lets me experiment on a webserver
environment for free.
>
> >Your site takes about 10 minutes to go through all the material on
> >it. After that, it's done. A twinkie for the eyes. That's about it.
>
> You seem to keep forgetting that I have more than one site, Stupid.
> The main Backwater site is more of a portal to all my other sites,
> that's the purpose it serves, it doesn't need to do any bullshit or
> hoo ha.
Why isn't your almighty carebears site listed on there then?
>
> >> Wrong, Child. I KNOW that I know more than you, I never claimed to be
> >> the all ending definitive source on web coding...but I've certainly
> >> done things that NO ONE in the field has ever done before.
>
> >You're not the only person to use flash ever.
>
> Where did I claim I was?
Oh, so you only act like it then. Well, you're the one saying how
groundbreaking you are.
>
> >You're not the only person to put your content in an iframe either.
>
> Oh boy, there's that iframe molestation again. Seriously Junior,
> what's with the hard on for iframes? I mean, it's an iframe, it's
> like you're bitching about an alt tag or an image tag, it's just a
> tag, Stupid, it's not some mystical HTML sekrat weapon or something,
> ya fuckin goober.
Apparently, it is, since it's pretty much all you do.
>
> >You made a background picture
> >that resizes itself. Okay but it's just a background picture.
>
> Sorry, Stupid, but it's not the just the background, it's EVERY IMAGE
> ELEMENT.
Ooooh! End of flamewar, man!!! You be's the gratenest thing EVARRRR !!
Idiot. If it's so great, why do I have to hit refresh to see it?
> Leave it to a fucking retarded deficient like you to think
> it was just the background resizing itself, LOL, ANYBODY could do
> that, you stupid Goober.
I don't sweat shit like that. I have a page that looks like a...page.
Bold step, I know, but I'm satisfied with the results so far.
>
> http://www.backwater-productions.net/alt.2600/
Way to keep your content at nice breezy zero. I bet that makes for easy
updating.
>
> You wanna know how many images are on there?
I don't really give a shit how many there are.
>
> Look here, Dumbass:
> http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/tehparts.png
It doesn't matter how many images it has. There's nothing to see or do
other than some floting 2600 logo.
>
> Of course, as out of it as you are you probably can't even tell me WHY
> the image parts are split apart like that. Free cl00, if they
> weren't, the overall site size would be THREE TIMES what it currently
> is. You see kiddo, it's not enough to be able to just "make a pretty
> picture", you have to know how to properly encode and split apart
> images to achieve the best compression, this however requires highly
> specialized web coding in order to put it all back together.
No, it requires graphic arts skill. In the end, it's still just a
picture. And not even a very good one. Hell, your creepy carebears site
has much better pictures than this one. So does your backwater-
productions site. This just looks like some clumped togther piece of
crap. I'm not impressed.
> See
> that's what I mean about my skill level, Kiddo...it requires advanced
> understanding of ALL areas, from graphics design, to web coding, to
> image encoding, without a mastery of ALL THREE areas of expertise you
> couldn't even fuckin DREAM of building sites like mine.
I wouldn't want to build sites like yours.
>
> Oh, coincidentally, there are only a VERY small number of people who
> actually have all those skills. And I hate to break this to ya, but
> it's NOT something you can learn in any school that I'm aware of.
You have *some* skill. You make a pretty picture. Well, except for that
crappy 2600 one.
>
> >Chances are nobody will even notice
>
> That's generally the idea, you want the inner workings to appear
> seamless. In the end it doesn't matter because only the people who
> gots teh skillz can replicate the end effect, despite how easy a
> stupid n00b like you thinks it is. Let me put it another
> way...you...are not competition. ^_^
>
1) I'm not in the walla walla area
2) I helped some dude with his java project by explaining abstraction.
Fuck you do today?
> >because they'll be too busy looking at other
> >stuff on the site. It's nifty but in the big scheme of things, has a
> >minimal impact on your site's viewership.
>
> Content is nothing without an appealing interface.
Not true. I'm more inclined to stay with a site that at least gives me
something to read or some reason to be there beyond the trainwreck
value.
>
> >> Post the code, hell, just go to my main Backwater site and check out
> >> the downloads section, Kiddo. Not only have I got a DVD style
> >> interface but I've got custom volume controls as well. And if you
> >> wanna try and claim it's can opener code, by all means, replicate the
> >> effect.
>
> >Can't. Don't have flash.
>
> Well technically I don't either, I used SwishMax...lil harder to use
> since a lot of stuff doesn't work in preview mode, so you have to know
> what you're doing. Essentially it's like programming with no debug
> mode, it either works on export or it doesn't, if it doesn't, you're
> forced to go through and figure it out for yourself the hard way.
Sounds like you make a lot of work for yourself.
>
> >> It only took me about a day collectively and you seem to
> >> think you're better at coding than I am, so you should be able to do
> >> it in like...half the time! ^_^
> >>
> >
> >Even less than that.
> >
> >Started: 4:30-ish
> >Finished: 6:30
> >
> >Oh, it's centered in the middle of the page too.
> >
> >http://www.geocities.com/tryppee999/image.html
>
> One, it's not in Flash, two, that's not a custom interface you stupid
> n00b. Change all the graphics on the video functions like nyah:
> http://www.backwater-productions.net/wwcc/yoga-online/
Why? It's an embedded windows media player. It's *supposed* to look like
that.
>
> Oh, but it won't work in FF, cause FF doesn't support most of the
> Javascript media object controls...hence the reason I'm using Flash
> for most of my video stuff these days.
>
The embed worked but it's wonky as hell. Could be because it's a .wmv
file but I haven't tested other types of clips yet. It's on my little
mental to do list. I'll have to play around with it more.
--
Noodles Jefferson
mhm31x9 Smeeter#29 WSD#30
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are common, children no longer obey their parents and the end of the
world is evidently approaching."
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