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Re: Layout using CSS vs. tables

Posted by Malte Christensen on 01/08/06 21:45

Gérard Talbot wrote:
> Malte Christensen wrote :
>
>> Bernhard Sturm wrote:
>>
>>> Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>>>
>>> this is a perfect example to demonstrate that valid HTML (the page we
>>> are discussing here validates as 'valid HTML 4.01'!) does not mean
>>> that the page is semantically valid. The source code above is not
>>> structured and semantically questionable if not completely wrong.
>
>
>
> I absolutely agree with what J. Little writes exactly here. Your
> webpage, Malte, is very poorly structured, is semantically wrong and
> does not show an example of good, sound webpage design. Using table to
> layout elements in a webpage when there is no tabular data involved is
> bad semantic to begin with, even though it might be using valid markup
> code.
>
> I
>
>>> doubt whether the author of such a source has understood the concept
>>> of separating layout from structure, and hence renders the discussion
>>> 'table-layout vs. CSS-tableless layout' useless.
>>
>>
>>
>> As I said initially, I wasn't out to start a war ;-)
>
>
> We're not at war either: we're talking, discussing in a newsgroup
> discussion without making insults, bashing, personal/ad hominem remarks,
> you know.
>
>
>> I read all of the responses, went to all the sites, and made up my
>> mind to use CSS.
>
>
> Which sites did you go?
>
>
>> The interim results after 3 hours are at www.nmalte.dk. I am very
>> pleased with the clarity that this design results in, even if probably
>> everything could be improved.
>
>
> You're using nested tables at nmalte.dk site! It's even worse than plain
> table use for layout. Converting such site into a CSS flexible/fluid 2
> column design would be easy.
>
> That I am not exactly a graphics designer
>
>> is also clear...
>
>
> We're not either: what's the point anyway?
>
> But heck, writing Java code is more fun anyway :-)
>
>>
>> Constructive criticism always welcome. My mail address is on the site.
>
>
> http://www.gtalbot.org/NvuSection/NvuWebDesignTips/WebDesignResources.html#CSSWebpageTemplates
>
>
> Gérard
> --
> remove blah to email me
Thank you for your comments. As earlier posts show, the current pages
are the OLD ones put back on why I figure out why the NEW ones won't
show in MSIE.

 

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