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Posted by Kevin Scholl on 01/12/06 04:32
William Tasso wrote:
>>>>> Hello Peter,
>>>>> No one needs to use a bloated (IMHO) webpage editor that costs big
>>>>> money
>>>>> and adds all kinds of useless junk to your code usch as DW or
>>>>> Frontpage.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> </snip>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can you be more specific about what DW adds to the code?
>>>>
>>>
>>> example only:
>>>
>>> <table>
>>> ...
>>> <tr width="270">
I've never seen a width applied to a <tr>.
>>> <td></td>
>>> <td></td>
>>> <td></td>
>>> <td></td>
>>> <td></td>
>>> <td></td>
>>> </tr>
>>> </table>
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
>>>
>
>>
>> That is indeed interesting...
>> I have been working with DW in a production environment for about 4 years
>> and have not witnessed code (markup) being generated like that,
>> unless asked
>> to do so.
>
>
> well - yes, that's the point isn't it.
>
>> Example. I asked DW to make a table, 100% in width, 3 rows and 2 columns.
>> Here is the markup it gave me...
>>
>> <table width="100%" summary="test table">
>> <tr>
>> <td> </td>
>> <td> </td>
>> </tr>
>> <tr>
>> <td> </td>
>> <td> </td>
>> </tr>
>> <tr>
>> <td> </td>
>> <td> </td>
>> </tr>
>> </table>
>
>
> Ahh yes - forgot the - apologies, above was from memory.
>
>> The non-breaking spaces it inserts are just placeholders, where other
>> objects/content would be placed. After content is added, it looks
>> like this
>> (no code cleaning was done)...
>>
>> <table width="100%" summary="test table">
>> <tr>
>> <td>Lorem ipsum dolor si</td>
>> <td>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consect</td>
>> </tr>
>> <tr>
>> <td>Lorem ipsum dolor sit am</td>
>> <td>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscin</td>
>> </tr>
>> <tr>
>> <td>Lorem ipsum dolor sit </td>
>> <td>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectet</td>
>> </tr>
>> </table>
>>
>> Looks pretty clean to me, nicely indented, etc...
>
>
> markup looks just fine and dandy[1] - goes to show that power-tools
> make stuff quicker, not necessarily better[2]. Not sure where you're
> posting from, but in AWW we see a lot of empty tables when reviewing
> DW/FP/whatever generated pages
Well sure, if the user tells it to create a table and then doesn't
populate it with anything. Seems to me the tool has done exactly what it
was told to do, yes?
>> I'm not trying to convince you to use the tool. Use whatever you are
>> comfortable, happy & productive with. :-)
>
>
> Likewise - live long and prosper.
>
> [1] usual caveats about correct use of table markup applies
> [2] the number of people that can't drill a straight hole is truly
> astonishing
Indeed. :)
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