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Posted by dorayme on 01/20/06 03:29
In article <0xPzf.1294$pU2.805@bignews5.bellsouth.net>,
"Jim" <reply@groups.please> wrote:
> "dorayme" <doraymebutdeletethis@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:43cf8930$0$22294$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> > Jim wrote:
> >
> >> I cannot discuss exactly what I am going to do just yet, but for an
> >> excellent example of why you'd want to put other sites in a frame, go to
> >> http://torrentsearcher.filesharingplace.com .
> >
> > Yes, I understand, I have come to appreciate the need for some discretion
> > and secrecy from Luigi. What, Jim, are we to see in particular? I am on a
> > bit of a slow dialup and any help would be appreciated.
>
>
> The example shows a navigation frame on the left with a search field and
> several buttons of various torrent search engines. When you enter some
> search words and click a link in the left frame, the right frame shows the
> search engine (who's name you clicked in the left frame) in it's entirety.
> Nothing is changed or removed from the pages being displayed.
>
Well, when I clicked on The Pirate Bay link, it started to load
in the right frame and then suddenly took over the whole browser
window with the other site, the navigation left pane disappeared
and the back button was cleared of its history...
But I know how it is meant to operate, let us put this down to a
glitch or action by the loaded site content's owners.
> I think this is an appropriate use of frames to show other web pages.
Perhaps. With various safeguards like notices to avoid creating
any misapprehensions and maybe even permission from the sites
concerned (perhaps this would avoid trouble in the operation too)
Suppose there are good arguments to say that if you can do
something from the start without frames and with not too much
trouble, you should. In the light of this, you need to assess
your above phrase "an appropriate use of frames".
I speak from some experience here. I had a fair sized commercial
site in frames for many years (it was as appropriate a use of
frames as ever existed) and could barely face the idea of
reconfiguring it without. But - under pressure from much
commentary on this ng, mostly nothing to do with me personally, I
did. It was a big job for me but am very glad I did.
The point I want to make to you is this: The navigation for that
site is _still_ on the left and the contents _still_ appeared on
the right. The back and forward buttons that God in His Wisdom
gave browsers, work naturally and intuitively in His Image. And I
avoid many search engine and other associated frames problems.
And, frankly, I was freed to design more fluidly and do things
that either I could not before or simply did not think of. The
result was a thing of incredible beauty and power.
But you perhaps have more practical aims... good luck!
--
dorayme
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