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Posted by Manuel Lemos on 10/01/26 11:14
Hello,
on 04/25/2005 11:28 AM Ryan A said the following:
>>Hello,
>>on 04/25/2005 06:17 AM Khuram Noman said the following:
>>>I want to develop a shopping car in flash using php so
>>>there any good tutorial or sample code that explain
>>>the flash integration with php
>
>
>>It depends on what you mean by Flash integration. Here you may find
>>several classes that provide different kinds of Flash integration:
>>http://www.phpclasses.org/browse/class/102.html
>
> True, but going there has become a real pain in the ...you know where coz
> you get a crapload of popups,
I understand you do not like ads. I do not like them either, but the
truth is that if the site had no ads, it would had been closed by now
because it takes money and all my time to keep the site up and running.
I am sure that most users that care about this site would not like this
site to be closed. So, think about the ads as a better solution then
having no site at all.
The good news for users that really care is that, if all goes well, in
the second semesters the site subscribers will have the option to access
the site with ads by adhereing to the paid subscriptions plan.
These will be made available for a small fee (say USD $5/month) and
among other benefits interesting to PHP developers, it will provide
access to the whole site without absolutely no ads.
Subscribers that do not want to adhere to the paid subscriptions will
still be able to access the same site resources as before, only with ads
though.
Nobody will be required to pay anything, but people that want to get rid
of the ads and benefit from other services will still have an option. I
don't know how to make it more fair than this, but I am always open to
suggestions.
> and a sh**load of ads, then to cap it all off before you actually download
> what you want you are presented
> a full page which prompts you to download a software which will get you
> better screensavers or one which
> will give you more smiley options, both the softwares come riddled with
> spyware/adware which is not too
> good for your comp....these full pages stay for 10 secs or you have the
> option of "skipping" them while
> the 10 secs counter is going on.
You are not prompted to download anything unless you click on any of
those ads.
> Almost forgot, you also get a warning page page telling you about a bug in
> IE,
> EVERYTIME you try to download a package/class...
> this page too is loaded with ads of course.
That page is not shown to non-IE users. I do not use IE, so I do not see
that page ever. Therefore, it did not cross my mind it could be that
annoying for people downloading many packages.
The point of that page is certainly not to show more ads, but to avoid
many repetitive support requests by IE users that are not able to
download packages because of that IE bug.
While trying to take that criticism seriously, I think the problem can
be minimized by letting users set an option to not present the warning
again, maybe using cookies. Therefore I submitted an enhancement
request, so this issue can be addressed ASAP:
http://bugs.phpclasses.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24
> I'm sure to get quite a bit of flack for this email...so go right ahead, but
> before doing so please note:
> 1: I was/am quite a fan of the php classes site, its a good idea and very
> useful (although sadly i dont use the site anymore because of the above)
> 2: I have nothing against a developer making a money off his site/programs
I appreciate the time and patience of people that bother to make
criticisms, especially if they show they are concerned with presenting
viable solutions for the problems that they face.
> but I think its quite shameful to ruin a good site by littering it with so
> many ads that it becomes an eyesore and a
> pain to visit...plus promote 2nd/3rd hand software from shady companies like
> cursormania/funwebproducts (do
> a google search on them) and lastly...show extra pages of "content" before
> giving the user what he wants just to
> deliver extra ads.
>
> Even adding this to my windows hosts file:
> 127.0.0.1 files.phpclasses.org
> so that all unnecessary graphics dont get displayed is not much of a
> advantage anymore as they are being served from
> a LOT of places...but it does help.
The problem is not that simple. This is a site that is run by one person
only (who happens to be me). Therefore, it is not viable to run after
advertisers. That is a service that is "outsourced" to companies that
act like advertising agencies. Such companies include Google,
Tribalfusion and Fastclick.
Therefore, often there is not a fine control of what ads go to the site.
I can apply some filters but only after I see the ads.
OTOH, there are some ad spaces where only such advertisers spend money,
so I have no choice to let them go at the risk of annoying some users.
Since the intention of the site is not to annoy the users, for now the
site provides an option to disable pop-under and interstitial ads (those
that appear when you click on a link to another page).
That option is on by default for logged users and can be changed in the
user options page. I do not advertise this option much because most
users do not mind that much seeing the advertising. Since this kind of
ads are those that pay more, I think it would not be a good idea to
bring attention to an option to disable something that many users would
not mind.
Keep in mind that this option will only be accessible to all users until
the paid subscriptions are made available. After that only paid
subscribers will be able to disable it. Until then you can enjoy it for
free.
BTW, anybody willing to participate in the beta testing of the paid
subscription services, feel free to contact me privately so I can let
you know first and you can participate in the tests (at no cost of
course) before the paid services are officially launched.
--
Regards,
Manuel Lemos
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