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Posted by Gordon Burditt on 10/27/25 11:28
>Thank you for the detailed response, it helps greatly. With regards to
>the session handling and SSL, I am not concerned about my data really,
>as I am not dealing with any financial data or anything that is very
>personal info at all. The only sensitive info is passwords, and those
>pages are SSL'd.
>
>My concern is this - I am obviously not 100% sure about all the details
>of session handling, but my concern is that if someone is able to hijack
>a session via whatever method, perhaps packet sniffing and getting the
>session id, wouldn't this person then be able to take over the user's
>existing session and function as that user?
Yes, assuming you don't ask for authentication information again
when doing sensitive changes. But remember that if someone is able
to guess the user's *password*, he can do that also, and he may be
able to continue doing that for years, as opposed to a session,
which hopefully doesn't last very long.
Which do you think is easier to guess, a user's session ID or a
user's password? Take a look at the session IDs generated on
your system and the length of typical user passwords actually
selected by real users.
>In other words, the
>attacker could function as if he/she were the user and potentially
>delete important data that the user has authority to delete, but does
>not want to delete. To me, someone gaining access to someone else's
>session could wreak havoc, even if there is technically no sensitive
>information at stake. Am I reading too much into this?
People won't bother trying to hijack sessions if they can guess
passwords. Users tend to choose lousy passwords. On the other
hand, session code tends to choose randomized session IDs.
What is the threat here? Would someone spend days trying to sniff
session data to delete user info which the user could re-type-in
in 10 minutes? Why? If this is a forum for something like IRC,
where just logging in can attract an attack, and in-person meetings
between people on the same IRC channel are likely to involve automatic
weapons and cluster bombs, if not suitcase nukes, I can see the
problem.
Gordon L. Burditt
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