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Posted by Jerry Stuckle on 10/25/05 07:04
Ramon wrote:
>>
>> Your statement is that any programmer who doesn't use an IDE such as
>> ZEND isn't as productive as one who does.
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> On large scale projects *YES*.
>
That was not your statement. Let me quote you (again): "And anyone that
stated in this thread that they don't need anything more then textpad,
obviously have not worked on a large scale PHP project. "
You did NOT say you must use one on a large scale project. You said
"ANY PROGRAMMER"...
>> My statement is that an IDE is NOT for everyone. Some people do even
>> better by not using one.
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> Very hard to belive, not sure how many people would use a texteditor
> alternative to .NET tech.
>
Trying to change the subject again? But yes, there are people out there
who do.
>> Let's see - you try to fit everyone into one mold. I try and make the
>> mold to fit each individual. Who's a brick wall?
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> I'm not trying to fit anyone into anything, it is my personal opinion to
> which I am entitled.
>
Yes, and you're saying everyone should use an IDE.
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>> Could be. I am quite willing to correct misstatements by some new guy
>> who thinks he's an "expert".
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> There are quete a few people who are of the same opinion in this thread
> alone. They are all *new guys*.
>
And you're the one who thinks he's an expert.
>> And I don't give a flying shit what you think.
>>
>> Let me clue you - training in the corporate world is MUCH different
>> than in a university. For instance - I have to fit the equivalent of
>> a semester into one week. That means teaching C, C++, or Java from
>> the ground up.
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> Good, I am glad that we have come to an understanding at least on this.
> If you don't give a shit, don't correct me or insult me, and go hide in
> the hole you crawled out of. The OP asked for an opionion, which I gave
> who gave you the write to critises that? Fucking armchair bandit.
>
I said I don't give a shit what *YOU* think. I do care when you try to
snow other programmers with your BS.
>> Every course has critiques of both the course material and the
>> trainer. And if I don't do a good job, they find someone else for the
>> next course.
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>
> You seem to ahve alot of time on your hands atm, not many contracts
> going your way. BL.
Actually, I have more work than I want. I've had to subcontract some of
it out and/or turn some work down. But it still leaves me with
sufficient time to be on usenet. I'm doing it from my laptop in bed
right now, for instance.
>
>> Gee, you work for a community college? Or are you one of those "not
>> so good" lecturers?
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> No, actually Information Technology Services for a major reasearch based
> University. 2 degrees, 1 in comp. science (australia), and 1 in Moscow's
> MGU also comp. science, not that your arrogence would allow you to know
> what that is.
>
Ah, "Education". And yes, I do know what it is. Let me clue you -
Universities are nothing like the real world!
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>> It is ONE way to go. Not the ONLY WAY.
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>
> CBF repeating again, even though I do realise taht repetition is
> paramount here. As old dogs do... learn... well...
>
And maybe you will learn one day.
>> > And btw - I really don't think much of anyone who can't be bothered
>> to follow newsgroup standards. One of the standards for this newsgoup
>> does NOT include top posting.
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> That is just sad. You don't think much of me? :) My confidence is
> shattered.
At least you didn't top post. You get one point for that.
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