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Posted by Gary L. Burnore on 11/12/25 11:30
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:16:23 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
<jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
>Oli Filth wrote:
>> Jerry Stuckle said the following on 27/10/2005 05:59:
>>
>>> Oli Filth wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>> Check back through your messages. You indicated one of the best
>>> reasons to use an IDE is for the autocompletion (or hints) for function.
>>
>>
>> However, not in this part of the thread - I was instead talking about
>> navigating the source code itself, with class views and associated tools.
>>
>
>This thread is about using IDE's.
>
>>> I'm saying this is bogus - proper documentation replaces the need.
>>
>>
>> See the argument below...
>>
>>>>
>>>> With a decent Java IDE, they are - you press F1 (or Ctrl+F1, or
>>>> whatever), and you land straight on the documentation of the
>>>> class/method/variable in question.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ah, another IDE - Java this time!
>>>
>>> With Windows help files, you don't NEED an IDE!
>>
>>
>> Yes, I know that! And with HTML documentation, you don't need chm files;
>> and with a hard-copy manual, you don't need HTML documentation; we could
>> go on...
>>
>
>But HTML documentation cannot be as easily searched and indexed,
>especially if it's on an intranet.
Sure it can. Ever see the docs for Perl?
>> By the logic of your argument, you should be using Notepad to do your
>> coding!
>>
>
>Actually, I use TextPad for a lot of it.
Yep. That's a good tool. So too is vim.
>> The point is that pressing a single button (for me at least), is much
>> quicker and less distracting than pressing Alt+Tab, making sure the
>> caret is in the search box, typing the function name, selecting the
>> correct option, reading the definition in the help-file, temporarily
>> memorising it (or copy-pasting it), and then pressing Alt+Tab to get
>> back to the editor and then typing it in.
>>
>
>OK, to each his own. I would rather have the help files separate.
>And BTW - generally I don't do Alt+Tab plus whatever. Most of the time
>I have the help files up on a second computer and just switch keyboards.
I use two monitors, one cpu.
>> (Feel free to insert your own key combo instead of Alt+Tab!)
>>
>>
>>> And BTW - this is a PHP newsgroup, not a Java newsgroup.
>>
>>
>> Indeed, however this thread has become more generalised and seems to be
>> about IDEs in general...
>>
>>
>
>You've tried to make it that way, true. But this is about PHP IDE's.
Komodo!
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