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Posted by GT on 10/06/18 11:41
well thats an interesting case of crossfiring :
> Umm. Isn't bluefish a text editor? And Quanta? Nvu isn't and I've
> not heard of Screem. I don't know why the OP would lump text and
> graphical editors together. Maybe bluefish and Quanta have a graphical
> mode I don't know about? It's been quite a while since I've looked at
> either. Does Nvu have a text mode?
>
as far as I am concerned they all are. they just also include a rather large arsenal
of "clickable" shortcuts to build sites.
now, how good the philosophy is or how good a job they make at *applying* this
philosophy is not really what I am after here ...
> As far as downloading a "good" template. How do you expect anyone to
> know a "good" template without knowing HTML and CSS? I don't use, and
> don't recommend other people's templates.
I would tend to agree
> If you're not going to learn
> the language you are dealing with, you might as well just use DW, MS
> Word or any of the other graphical editors that spew forth pure crap.
well, that's overshooting a bit. I agree that learning some of the language is
required, but one can't become expert at everything.
as for DW MS etc... experience has shown me they go from incredibly bad (to the point
where you begin to believe that what the machine is doing is what you actually
*wanted* to do in the first place (which, of course, is not the case!) to
reasonable.
>
>> > integrated up-download is nice,
>
> You've got to become good with HTML and CSS before that. Until you are
> competant, you should depend on sftp or ftp so you are working off-line
> and can make a backup before uploading.
well; to be honest I don't really need imbedded ftp. shell is fine although, again, a
graph interface is nice.
you see, when you do not know everything, being faced with a blank cursor does not
really help. when you have a GUI, at least you can explore and try things out.
at the moment, shell ftp works (almost) fine, gftp refuses to log on to the remote. no
idea why.
>
> I work directly to/from the server and have pulled some big goofs. I'm
> also the sys admin so could pull stuff out of backups. Are you the sys
> admin?
with Qs like these? I'd keep the day job. no, I am merely a mathematician trying to
get my website up to date and finding a decent soft to do in with (yeah, I know :
learn html ,css, xhtml, etc .... ) in a reasonable time 2 week for 10 p give or take.
been there for years and seriously needs some maintenance / redesigning.
>
>> What are the chances of some WYSIWYG containing
>> the best tool available? Your operating system will
>> do the integration of the best tool that will run on
>> your machine.
>
> ???
no idea what that meant either.
>
>> > I am not really looking for
>> > flashy stuff, although being able to create menus
>> > (drop down type) would be nice,
>>
>> What are the chances of your WYSIWYG having the very best
>> of all available templates?
>> Get the best drop-down template in the world for your needs.
>> Modify it with a text editor.
>
> Again, without knowing the languages involved, how would someone know
> the "best"? Not to mention that drop-downs are not necessarily the
> best type of menuing system to use.
agreed. and no, I guess they are not, but this is a possible.
>
>> Make absolutely sure the one you choose
>> degrades gracefully for visitors who
>> have no javascript.
>
> That's easy. Learn HTML and CSS to write your pages yourself; don't
> bother learning javascript and you won't have to worry about it. None
> of your pages will have any.
>
I am sorry, did not get that.
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