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Posted by Stan McCann on 03/06/06 06:32
GT <rafat@caramail.com> wrote in
news:440b4b34$0$18308$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr:
>> If you're not going to learn
>> the language you are dealing with, you might as well just use DW,
>> MS Word or any of the other graphical editors that spew forth pure
>> crap.
>
> well, that's overshooting a bit. I agree that learning some of the
> language is required, but one can't become expert at everything.
That's more from frustration than anything. I have users screaming for
"Word Quality" web pages. In other words, using a graphical interface
to place things "pixel perfect" like they do when they create Word
documents. I often want to just throw my hands up and yell out, yeah,
just place any old garbage on the site. Sad as it is, some have.
> well; to be honest I don't really need imbedded ftp. shell is fine
> although, again, a graph interface is nice.
> you see, when you do not know everything, being faced with a blank
> cursor does not really help. when you have a GUI, at least you can
> explore and try things out. at the moment, shell ftp works (almost)
Some things require lots of exploration to find or someone to teach
you. I start off my beginners course with an introduction to protocols
and programs that may be useful.
>> I'm also the sys admin so could pull stuff out of backups. Are you
>> the sys admin?
>
> with Qs like these? I'd keep the day job. no, I am merely a
> mathematician trying to get my website up to date and finding a
Then you'd beat me to death in a math test. :)
> decent soft to do in with (yeah, I know : learn html ,css, xhtml,
> etc .... ) in a reasonable time 2 week for 10 p give or take. been
> there for years and seriously needs some maintenance / redesigning.
Understood, I have math teachers, sciences teachers, English, nursing,
.... all wanting WYSIWYG editors. They don't believe me when I tell
them there is no such thing.
So, I'm in the process of writing a program that I hope to also turn
into a CMS written specifically for my site.
>> Again, without knowing the languages involved, how would someone
>> know the "best"? Not to mention that drop-downs are not
>> necessarily the best type of menuing system to use.
>
> agreed. and no, I guess they are not, but this is a possible.
That's why I've learned to avoid the use of "always" and "never".
Either can get you in trouble.
>> That's easy. Learn HTML and CSS to write your pages yourself;
>> don't bother learning javascript and you won't have to worry about
>> it. None of your pages will have any.
>>
> I am sorry, did not get that.
>
He was saying the pages should degrade for those without javascript and
I was saying in rather a smart assed way don't use javascript at all.
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