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Posted by PeterMcC on 03/20/06 12:30
Carolyn Marenger wrote in
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> jmev7 wrote:
>
>> I've been wondering how sites are able to contain other sites within
>> them, linking them as if they were their own. I can't think of any
>> at this time, but some appear to link to other sites, but when you
>> click the links, the first site maintains their header in the target
>> page. Can someone tell me how this is done, and is it legal?
>
> A quick example is google image search. When you select a google
> image to look at, it loads the target site in a frame on the lower
> portion of the viewport, with a google title bar across the top.
>
> Framesets are probably the easy way to incorporate other sites into
> your own. In-line frames could also be used. I think they have
> their purpose, like google's image search, however I also think they
> are overused.
>
> I am sure you could also use SSI and/or server side scripts to grab
> all or portions of some other webpage and include it in your own. I
> can see doing this as a test of programming skills, but I can not
> think of a practical purpose. That isn't to say there isn't one,
> just that I can't think of it.
>
> As for it being legal? I am not a lawyer, but here is my take on the
> subject. I can take a can of Splitzo Paint and use it in my
> storefront window display. I don't need to contact Splitzo Paint to
> do so, even if my store sells used hockey equipment. (I might want
> to, as they might give me a break on the cost of the can in exchange
> for the advertising, but that is a different issue.)
>
> I can present a seminar to a group of blond haired poodles. In the
> seminar, I can quote a paragraph from a sci-fi book I have just read.
> I am required to credit the source, but I don't have to ask them
> permission first.
>
> I can use someone else's content on my site, again, if I credit the
> source. If I am configuring my site to tell your browser to load a
> piece of their content, into a section of the viewport displaying my
> site, I would give credit. It wouldn't even have to be a link, just
> credit. There is some controversy over this practise, specifically
> in relation to images. As far as I know, it isn't illegal, it is
> frowned upon in some circle however.
>
> Now, can I copy the content to my site to display it? That would
> depend on the source's copyrights. I would check first, and I would
> keep a copy of the copyright statement at that time. I would also
> check with your local laws.
>
> In Canada, as I understand it, anything can be copied for educational
> and research purposes. If I am teaching music, I can copy that new
> CD to help my student practise. If I am a science teacher, I can
> copy that article out of Popular Science to give to the students. If
> I am researching the cultural influence of cell phones on web site
> design, I can copy web sites.
>
> The tricky part come in posting things back on the net. If I copy
> stuff in Canada, for educational reasons, then I have not broken the
> Canadian copyright law. If I post it to my educational site, hosted
> in Canada, then I still have not broken Canadian copyright law. If
> my hosting company has a backup server in the UK, then I better check
> with UK law.
>
> It would probably be a good idea for me to check any laws in any
> region of the world I might want to visit in the future. If I have
> copied something from a site hosted in America, I may have broken
> American law. If the original source decided to pursue the
> situation, there is little they could do as long as I stayed out of
> the states. I doubt that I would get extradited to the states in a
> situation like this. However if I crossed into America, my name
> could very well be flagged at the border.
>
> Disclaimer: The legal advise presented in this message is provided by
> someone with almost no legal training what so ever. I did take a two
> month community college business law course. If you want accurate
> legal opinion, fork out the bucks and seek a lawyer. If you want my
> uneducated opinion, feel free to ask me.
With respect, I'm afraid that the legal advice given in the above is a long
way from accurate and it would appear, from the examples given, that the
poster is herself breaking copyright law in a number of instances.
If avoiding a breach of copyright is important to the OP, I'd suggest they
did further research or sought qualified advice - as, indeed, the poster
suggests.
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PeterMcC
If you feel that any of the above is incorrect,
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