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Posted by Paul Watt on 04/26/06 00:21
"Bruce Grubb" <bgrubb@zianet.com> wrote in message
news:bgrubb-F49CC6.14160625042006@news.zianet.com...
> In article <4b765cF106nqbU1@individual.net>,
> Dave Hinz <DaveHinz@spamcop.net> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:43:06 -0600, Bruce Grubb <bgrubb@zianet.com>
>> wrote:
>> > In article <4b6nskFvsorvU1@individual.net>,
>> > Dave Hinz <DaveHinz@spamcop.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Here, let me try. IE can render standard HTML adequately. Other
>> >> browsers also will render standard HTML adequately. If you code to
>> >> the
>> >> specific rendering errors that IE has, you will be writing broken HTML
>> >> which will be broken on any browser that isn't broken.
>>
>> > Exactly the point. And besides you have to be doing some really
>> > obscure
>> > stuff for IE to have serious problems. Going for the standard is the
>> > way
>> > to go because as previous articles have pointed out HTMLing for version
>> > x.0.1 of browser y can have problems if x.0.2 fixes the bug you just
>> > HTMLed
>> > to.
>>
>> Exactly. Long ago, people learned that you don't break the good part to
>> fit the bad, you fix the bad one to work with the good one. Applies in
>> mechanical assemblies as much as it applies to electronic
>> communications.
>>
>> > The only sane thing is to HTML to the standard and keep away from as
>> > much
>> > 'gee wizardry' as you can and go KISS. While the
>> ><http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer.html> page shows some fun
>> > bugs in IE
>>
>> Heh. I wonder if Microsoft pays attention to that page. They should.
>> Talk about someone doing your homework for you and handing you a
>> repeatable testable problem statement.
>
> Mac users use to have this joke:
>
> Q: How many Microsoft programers does it take to change a light bulb?
>
> A: None. They declare darkness the new standard.
>
> (which explains why most Windows users and programmers have been in the
> dark for the last 15 years :-))
>
> This quote from December 29, 2005 article
> <http://www.emailbattles.com/archive/battles/browsers_aacehieihi_gd/>
> about the end of IE for the MacOS suma up the problems:
>
> "We haven't innovated in the browser for almost a decade." (Dare
> Obsasanjo:
>
> A Jan 2006 article
>
> <http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060102-5880.html> was just as
> critical. More over it shows that for some PC FoxFire NOT IE will be the
> default browser.
>
> Worse yet a full 2 months before that Firefox had 14 percent market share
> in the US and was rapid at the 1/5 market share in Canada. In Japan IE is
> at 70% and dropping like a stone.
>
> Face it unless you are totally blind (or *believe* darkness IS the new
> standard) writing to IE is just plain stupid.
Write for standards, hack for IE. best of both worlds
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