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Posted by dorayme on 05/29/05 01:56

> From: Travis Newbury <TravisNewbury@hotmail.com>

>
> dorayme wrote:
>> oops, a typo, I meant "fat" ('chew the fat' is an expression for ...Sorry)
>
> ...I knew what you meant. Everyone
> that read the post knew what you meant.

Well, fair enough, I was thinking maybe not since you used "fact" in quoting
me back in making a point of your own. Maybe to be diplomatic to me. If so,
nice of you. I doubt if everyone would know this English expression... :)

> how many times do you see
> people rip others apart by by misrepresenting what we all know they
> mean? Or more often seen, misrepresenting ones post to mean the extreme.
>

I agree that this sort of thing goes on too much. The causes for folk not
reading between the lines and making charitable interpretations are complex.
And sometimes ugly. But there is little one can do to change these things
here.

>> Well, it is a complex matter. It is a bit unfair to caricature the
> views of
>> many here as 'one size fits all'. First, there are quite a range of
>> different views. From the rigid and silly to the more mature advocacy of
>> high standards.
>
> Yes, but you have to agree that the general mood of the "experts" in the
> group leans towards one size must fit all.

Well, this is not all that clear to me I am afraid. I still think you take
the mood *too* seriously and that underneath it is something more complex
which I have tried to describe.

>
>> Take Flash. Mostly I think, many people here take a sensible stance that
>> Flash is fine where it adds to the site in a way no other more assessable
>> method will and where people who cannot or do not use Flash are
> catered for
>> in some alternative way where it is important that they be catered for.
>
> The problem is what "adds to the site" means is in the eyes of the
> beholder. What I believe constitutes "adds to the site" is probably
> completely different from what Jukka (no offense Jukka) believes it
> means. And what if the content "is" Flash?
>

It is not quite relevant that different people have different views as to
what adds to a site. The point I was making was that if you use Flash for
anyone who thinks it would be nice, then who here would object violently if
it is used with proper alternative backup as explained. In fairness, most if
not all the more knowledgeable people here have made this kind of point
quite often.

dorayme

 

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