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Posted by Donald McDaniel on 05/05/06 02:26
On Tue, 2 May 2006 23:26:43 -0700, Michelle Steiner wrote
(in article <michelle-539027.23264302052006@news.west.cox.net>):
> In article <0001HW.C07D748A0004D7B5F0407600@news.sasktel.net>,
> Ruddell <ruddell'Elle-Kabong'@canada.com> wrote:
>
>>>> In the first place, one does not have to "spend $200", since XP
>>>> Professional can be purchased for much less.
>>>
>>> Professional lists for $299; you can get more than a third off?
>>> Home edition lists for $199, and the lowest I've seen it for sale
>>> has been in the 190s.
You are referring to the so-called "FULL RETAIL" distribution of Pro and
Home, Michelle, and apparently you are under the impression that these are
the ONLY types of licenses Microsoft sells.
This is simply because of your lack of knowledge about Windows XP in general
(not uncommon among both camps -- that is, knowledge of the "competing OS".)
Many XP users are just as ignorant of OS X, which makes both sides pretty
ignorant when it comes to the competition.
>>
>> Educational and corporate discount programs mean that some people can
>> get the software/OS for as little as twenty five dollars...
>
> If someone were eligible for any of those discounts, very good for them.
> Many of us aren't.
How many OS X users are "eligible for those discounts" when they purchase
Office:Mac Academic Licenses for its low price as compared with a "full
Office:Mac" distribution because few sellers check for proof of eligibility,
and they would otherwise be ineligible for the discount?
But of course, OS X users are NEVER hypocrites, are they.
Obviously, neither Mr. Jobs or his sycophants seem to have any concerns about
user eligibility for Microsoft products.
Why would you suddenly be concerned, Michelle? Maybe because it calls your
own so-called "ethics" into question?
But just to be fair, Microsoft does not normally allow any of its
distributors to fail to check for eligibility for discounts. At least for
Windows.
But where sales to Apple owners are concerned, Mr. Gates and his sycophants
seems to forget their own sense of ethics as well as Mr. Jobs and his
sycophants.
So in this area, one camp is just as "unethical" as the other.
I call it a "draw" on ethics.
But back to your comment, Michelle...
Well, do what other XP users with limited budgets do, and purchase a
so-called generic "FULL OEM" distribution of XP Pro for as little as $125
(about the same price as OS X, and possibly a little cheaper), or simply use
a previous non-Upgrade disk of XP which you might possess (as long it is not
a so-called "pull" which was purchased from a small system builder, which
will not be able to be Activated with little trouble.
Hint: Use ANY XP non-Upgrade install disk containing SP2 which has not been
activated for a minimum of 120 days. (120 days is the period during which
Microsoft Activation servers keep the Activation record, after which it is
DELETED.)
However, both OSes have relative faults in at least this area, since the OSX
edition Retail edition will only install on an Apple with an existing Apple
OS on it, and the XP Pro generic, or "FULL OEM" will only install on a PC
which has NO OS on it (at least that's what they (Microsoft) try to tell us,
and what many PC (by this I mean not only "Personal Computer", or "IBM
clone", but I also mean "Politically Correct") commentators try to tell us.
This is certainly not true in the "real world", since it is a simple matter
to install ANY XP Pro generic "FULL OEM" disk on any PC which has the
necessary hardware, or even with an existing XP OS on it, without hacking the
Install disk in any way, as long as the XP installation has not been
re-activated during the 120 days before the record is deleted from the
Activation server. Reinstalling the same CD key will only cause the
Activation Server to re-create the same record, as long as it is the same
hardware it was installed on the last time it was activated. However,
changing the motherboard WILL cause the Activation server to demand that you
activate the OS via phone, rather than over the Net. If you cannot show the
Activation support person that your install was allowed under the EULA, they
will REFUSE to Activate the OS, which will cause you to only be able to run
the OS In "Safe Mode" once the initial 30 day grace period during which the
OS can be run normally without activation, effectively making your
installation pretty worthless.
--
Donald L McDaniel
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