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Posted by Frankly on 05/29/06 18:47
"J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> wrote in message
news:4dvavrF1cebhnU1@individual.net...
> Frankly wrote:
>> "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> wrote in message
> I did begin with RedHat and I think it was a quite good distro (other
> won't), RPM with it's deep dependency checks does see to that you won't
> easily break your system and today when named Fedora it has easy to use
> package installer that fixes dependencies when you select to install
> something (from online) that you don't currently have the full dependency
> for.
>
> There are two things that I think is a drawback for RedHat/Fedora nowadays
> and it's the extensive use of Gnome2 (it's not that user friendly and
> developers don't listen to endusers and claims people don't know anything,
> attacks against mr Torvalds and Mr Cox I have seen), sadly most distros
> today are quite gnomy2fied even distros who claims that the user has the
> freedom to choose like Gentoo. The other thing is that you have to hassle
> quite a lot to get your kernel-source for the official kernels (this used
> to be provided as a already made package, but now you need to rebuild the
> source-rpm to get the kernel source).
>
> What matter is that you feel you have the right distro, not what others
> thinks is the right one.
One day I will get there. I love a challenge but never really had anyone to
help me with my computer questions.
i never had to bring any computer into get fixed.. well atleast i can change
parts :).
>
> A server should run without GUI, better performance and better usage of
> ram. As long as you don't run any X Windows Server, you can manage with a
> Pentium 266 with 256MB ram, directly when you add X Windows System you
> will need IMHO at least a PII-600 with 512MB. Keep in mind that more ram
> is always better, for harddrive 20GB will be okey, depending on how much
> data you will have and you can always later on add another harddrive.
i think the best thing to do is wait and first get the web site going. then
after that I can take my time
learn a little more about servers and see if it is really needed.
>
>
>> i can not see spending more than a dsl line ( right now ) and wonder if
>> that would be enough for about 5 visitors at a time.
>
> You can manage that kind of traffic (if you don't have much images) with a
> 56k modem, the more images and the larger they are the more bandwidth you
> need.
I must say that I have done a good job in the past building a static page
( front page ) for her and there were
days that i had about 250 hits. I am happy to say that when i do put my
mind to something I dont stop
until i get it right. however I have reached a point that I cant keep up
with things like this. I need to be able to update
the database and the web site at the same time.
>
>> could i buy a good server and install a cheap version of linux? the most
>> I could put together is $1000.
>
> I think you can manage with a machine that is under US$500 and you can
> always download the linux directly from the net (it's legal) and then burn
> it out on a CD or DVD (depending on the iso). Of course if you buy a copy
> from a compnay like RedHat (they sell only expensive versions nowadays)
> you get a load of extra programs that aren't covered by GPL and a good
> support.
> For a home user I think the free version and newsgroups are a better
> option.
when the site is up and going i will begin to look into this more. I always
wanted to try Linux
I have a feeling once i do, i will also say goobye to M$
>
>
>> and also security is an issue. perhaps it is better to wait.
>
> Just see to that the up2date (or what the distro will use) is run and
> keeps your machine with the latest packages all the time.
that is good news, i thought it was something i had to do.
>
>
>> what is the cheapest version someone with my knowledge can get?
>
> US$0, take a look at www.linuxiso.org
>
>
>> i will however still have access to the internet while working so that is
>> good- incase i need help
>> i guess the bottom line is can you help me configure a good server for
>> about $1000 that will also
>> be an investment for later on?
>
> Just any personal computer will work, you can add on things later on. Just
> avoid those compact machines from Compaq.
HP is also the same company. they do offer good prices :(.
>
>
>> do you think a dsl line will be powerful enough or should i just stick to
>> what web hosts offer. security is also an issue.
>
> I thuink you can manage with dsl and the update programs that comes with
> the installation sees to you don't have bugs and of course enable an
> iptable rule (you usualy select how hard security at install) to use,
> which keeps unwanted people out.
>
>
>> Say No More :) - you had me with "I would choose" from your last reply.
>> I was actually thinking about this last night. i do remember reading
>> something about 0/1 I am just not sure where i read it - does access have
>> something like a(-1/0 for if statments)? i think i remember something
>> about that to.
>> thank you for not only helping me but for also sharing what you know.
>
> I'm sorry, don't use access so don't know, but it can be used in any
> database that uses sql.
>
>
>
> With best regards,
>
> Aho
i could also be mistaken about the -1 thing. I have read so much lately it
will be much better now that I am only going to focus on php and mysql. I
will see you soon with my best ( for now ) shot at database design. I hope
for your monitors sake you were not drinking coffee :).
i wrote this part first and later added the rest..
opps to late :). i was going to tell you not to bother with that post about
the servers.
after the wine wore off I realized this would be the wrong time to do
something like that.
I created the apartments table 5 times yesterday. that damn 18000 seconds
thing got me a few times and dumped my table. I have a couple of more
tables to make, attributes to add and so on.
when i feel i have done my best with the tables I will show them here before
i start messing with relations.
i think i understand now about admin rights as far as being able to upload
the latest mysql however I was exploring my domane admin features and
found.
settings, server info, installed perl modules.
latest release: DBD-mysql-3.0004 -----
Bundle::DBD::mysql - a bundle to install perl drivers to msql or mysql.
anyway below is the web site
http://search.cpan.org/~rudy/DBD-mysql-2.9008/
I have found others web hosts that support php/mysql. I guess the same
thing would happen there.
I have what is there and that is always what I will have. I guess it would
be wise to find one with a stable version the last of the version 4's would
be a god choice.. I think today I might look again.
--
Thank you
Frank
PHPmySQL1(remove)@yahoo.com
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