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Posted by J.O. Aho on 05/29/06 19:38
Frankly wrote:
> "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> wrote in message
>> Frankly wrote:
>>> could i buy a good server and install a cheap version of linux? the most
>>> I could put together is $1000.
>> I think you can manage with a machine that is under US$500 and you can
>> always download the linux directly from the net (it's legal) and then burn
>> it out on a CD or DVD (depending on the iso). Of course if you buy a copy
>> from a compnay like RedHat (they sell only expensive versions nowadays)
>> you get a load of extra programs that aren't covered by GPL and a good
>> support.
>> For a home user I think the free version and newsgroups are a better
>> option.
>
> when the site is up and going i will begin to look into this more. I always
> wanted to try Linux I have a feeling once i do, i will also say goobye to M$
Some do like it, others not. There are other options too, BSD is quite similar
from user point of view, but regarded as more secure. A nice one that uses GUI
is QNX, there should be a demo version to download at www.qnx.com, the good
with this one is that you don't have to install it to test it (there are linux
that works the same way and are called LiveCD distros).
HaikuOS is under development, it's based on BeOS, which is a quite user
friendly OS, think you should keep your eyes open for this one.
>>> and also security is an issue. perhaps it is better to wait.
>> Just see to that the up2date (or what the distro will use) is run and
>> keeps your machine with the latest packages all the time.
>
> that is good news, i thought it was something i had to do.
I feel I have more control doing updates manually, but for those who don't
feel as sure about things an update tool is quite useful and the one included
in RedHat/Fedora can be configured quite a lot, so you can tell it to update
some packages but never others, you can tell it just to tell you if there is
an update or not without upgrading and let you to choose what to upgrade and
of course to make everything to be automatic so you don't have to do anything
at all.
>> Just any personal computer will work, you can add on things later on. Just
>> avoid those compact machines from Compaq.
> HP is also the same company. they do offer good prices :(.
I don't have any experience of HP computers, but one branded as HP don't have
to be the same as another branded Compaq, there is at least on the laptop
machines a quite big difference.
> i could also be mistaken about the -1 thing. I have read so much lately it
> will be much better now that I am only going to focus on php and mysql. I
> will see you soon with my best ( for now ) shot at database design. I hope
> for your monitors sake you were not drinking coffee :).
Not sure we are talking about the same thing, but in if-statments you get the
following results
if(0) = false
if(1) = true
if(2) = true
if(-1) = true
> I created the apartments table 5 times yesterday. that damn 18000 seconds
> thing got me a few times and dumped my table. I have a couple of more
> tables to make, attributes to add and so on.
> when i feel i have done my best with the tables I will show them here before
> i start messing with relations.
> i think i understand now about admin rights as far as being able to upload
> the latest mysql however I was exploring my domane admin features and
> found.
> settings, server info, installed perl modules.
> latest release: DBD-mysql-3.0004 -----
> Bundle::DBD::mysql - a bundle to install perl drivers to msql or mysql.
> anyway below is the web site
> http://search.cpan.org/~rudy/DBD-mysql-2.9008/
> I have found others web hosts that support php/mysql. I guess the same
> thing would happen there.
> I have what is there and that is always what I will have. I guess it would
> be wise to find one with a stable version the last of the version 4's would
> be a god choice.. I think today I might look again.
Perl is another language, which been quite popular before PHP and still quite
widely used, the dbd-mysql is a module that allows Perl to communicate with
mysql in the same way as php can communicate with mysql. This isn't needed for
php and the version has nothing to do with the version of mysql.
On my server the 3.0002 is installed and on my workstation I have 2.9007, as
they use different CPUs (server is powerpc and workstation is x86) they will
have different versions of programs installed as one may be marked as stable
on powerpc and be unstable on x86 or the other way around.
A good web hotel who offers mysql should run 4.1.x, and php 5.x, if using
older I think they are out of date. Soon mysql 5.0/5.1 should be stable too,
which gives better features. Avoid a hotel who offers mysql 3.x, they are
really outdated IMHO and see to that the php is at least version 4.1.x.
I hope this clears some "questions", if anything else, php/mysql/linux, just
ask :) Okey, now it's time for me to make some pancakes.
//Aho
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