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Posted by SAZ on 08/02/07 19:45
In article <d4b4b3hd6hhgh33phj08doftd7jos9luoh@4ax.com>,
dingbat@codesmiths.com says...
> On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 11:03:36 -0500, SAZ <saz1958@nospamexcite.com> wrote:
>
> >> More to the point, every teenager and their dog is writing (bad) PHP
> >> these days and there are no good jobs in it. You can certainly get
> >> such a job, but it's a minimum wage sort of role and you're thrown
> >> into a vast pit of undistinguished crappy-coders.
>
> >What? PHP is a minimum wage job? A halfway decent PHP coder can
> >command $40/hour or more as a freelancer. I love PHP jobs. They are
> >typically 20 - 30 hour projects and I get $60/hour with no problem.
>
> If you're happy with $40/hour, then good luck to you.
>
>
> How much does simple low-end HTML from Dreamweaver pay locally?
>
> How much does halfway competent Java pay?
>
> Of these two figures, which one is the PHP rate closer to?
>
>
> I'm not disputing the existence of good PHP jobs, just that they're
> rare. The majority of the roles (certainly in the UK) regard PHP as
> being at the bottom of the skills hierarchy, not the top. Most PHP
> coders _do_ only have minimal skills: it's the sort of easy-access
> platform which is accessible to people who don't need or want to take
> things any further than that. However that does foster an image
> (incorrecltly) that PHP can _only_ deserve low-end rates. It's the old
> problem in IT recruitment: matching buzzwords is easy, judging personal
> skills is hard.
>
It's very different in the US. As I said, I get $60/hour for PHP.
$40/hour is at the low end, but if you keep busy $40/hour can add up to
around US $83,000 per year - not a bad salary in any country.
I live in the Chicago area, and straight HTML and Dreamweaver pays in
the $40 - 50 range. Java is around $60 - 75, so I can safely say that
PHP is right in the middle.
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