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Posted by El Kabong on 08/02/07 19:52
"Andy Dingley" <dingbat@codesmiths.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 11:03:36 -0500, SAZ <saz1958@nospamexcite.com> wrote:
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>>> More to the point, every teenager and their dog is writing (bad) PHP
>>> these days and there are no good jobs in it. You can certainly get
>>> such a job, but it's a minimum wage sort of role and you're thrown
>>> into a vast pit of undistinguished crappy-coders.
>
>>What? PHP is a minimum wage job? A halfway decent PHP coder can
>>command $40/hour or more as a freelancer. I love PHP jobs. They are
>>typically 20 - 30 hour projects and I get $60/hour with no problem.
>
> If you're happy with $40/hour, then good luck to you.
>
>
> How much does simple low-end HTML from Dreamweaver pay locally?
>
> How much does halfway competent Java pay?
>
> Of these two figures, which one is the PHP rate closer to?
The $40/hour vs. $60/hour vs. $120/hour fluctuation makes perfect sense to
me.
If I hire someone to do work by the hour at top scale, I expect them to have
top journeyman skills, which translates into "productivity". If they are
still learning the skills, achieving the same level of productivity will
demand a lower hourly rate.
The old joke, "I know what I'm worth but I won't work that cheap," may be
applicable to Web design/programming at times.
AFAIC, ColdFusion (an "almost" programming language) is by far the easiest
to learn, using HTML-like tag elements and seemingly intended for entry
level Web programmers. However, it's not free and hosting can be costly due
to Adobe's extortionistic server pricing, (close to $8,000 for the latest
Enterprise version. Perhaps they want to discourage its use so they can
discontinue it.) If I hadn't started out with CF 10 years ago, there's no
way I would jump into it today. I would learn PHP instead and if I ever have
some time to kill, I will be learning it.
El
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