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Posted by Bear Bottoms on 08/10/07 23:51
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 18:02:02 -0500, Sherm Pendley <spamtrap@dot-app.org>
wrote:
> Craig <netburgher@REMOVEgmail.com> writes:
>
>> Ben C wrote:
>>> On 2007-08-10, Albert Wiersch <donotreply@123donotreply123.com> wrote:
>>>> "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> wrote in message
>>>> news:pmLui.204798$ln1.192950@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi...
>>>>> - -
>>>>>> This is a very good HTML editor.
>>>>> Check Google Groups for alt.html discussions on this phoney
>>>>> "validator".
>>>> And be sure to read the discussion as to why "validator" makes sense
>>>> to most people (say 99% of them) and why the program is often bashed
>>>> by a small number of people who don't like the name.
>>>
>>> It's not just the name. I object to the program and everything it
>>> stands
>>> for.
>>>
>>>> The people who talk bad about it also don't really know anything about
>>>> CSE HTML Validator, except they like to bash it.
>>>
>>> It's not that I _like_ to bash it. I consider it a duty.
>>
>> Ben or Jukka;
>>
>> Would either of you be willing to outline the criticisms that Ben's
>> referring to? The best I can gather so far, one criticism is that CSE
>> refers to its syntax checker(?) as a validator, a name usually
>> ascribed to the W3C site functions.
>
> It's not ascribed to the W3C site in particular, it's the definition of
> the
> term "validator." A validator is an SGML or XML based tool that checks a
> document against its DTD. Calling something a validator when it doesn't
> do
> that is dishonest.
>
> Frankly, I think it's a shame - Albert's product, despite not being what
> he
> claims it is, is still very useful. It catches problems that validators
> don't. He lost a lot of potential customers (myself included) who despise
> lies on principle, and might have purchased his product if he had
> marketed
> it honestly.
>
> sherm--
>
A validator is a computer program used to check the validity or
syntactical correctness of a fragment of code or document. The term is
commonly used in the context of validating HTML, CSS and XML documents or
RSS feeds though it can be used for any defined format or language. That
is exactly what CSE and W3C both do. CSE does a better job. W3C gives my
webpage a perfect green light, whereas CSE is showing me several lines of
syntax that can be corrected and one error.
--
Bear Bottoms
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